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[Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>]

aaahhhh thanks for the clarification LL. If we are talking only about
"Natural Systems" then there is no need for any debate at all.

But it seems clear to me that the subject matter from the beginning was
about superficial food farming under constructs and management by man in
aquaponics and hydroponics. Which is far from "Natural". Well is at least
in the world that I was born into and still exist in. I must admit I do not
live in USA so perhaps I'm deluded, as well as all the other expletives I
have been labelled as.....

But then we could expand the argument and suggest that "nature" does not
exist any more anywhere on this planet...For we live in a world which is
totally managed/mismanaged by man. Therefore there is no nature any more,
but managed/mismanaged landscapes. Steve Hart

On 8 June 2015 at 11:52, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have regurgitated this debate
> > after see a report of health effects of food eaten in prawn farms.
> >
>
> WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PRAWN OR FISH
> FARMS.........................
>
> Get it?
>
> we are talking about natural systems only
>
> Understand?
>
>
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