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[Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>]

Do it! Include this forum in case there are prospective attendees near Ok
City.
Invoke the spirit of the Woody Guthrie and the Okies. Woody would have
loved this sort of thing.
Just tell them you're just doing your part to prevent another Dust Bowl.
They can't argue with that....


On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net> wrote:

> I am thinking about making the hearing a FB event, lol.
>
> rmw
>
>
> On 5/25/2015 8:54 PM, Lawrence London wrote:
>
>> All this should go viral. Do a kickstarter to pay for banner headlines in
>> all mainstream newspapers.
>> Could evolve into a major convocation in Ok City; thousands of cars
>> jamming
>> the streets filled with people wanting to see Bob's Weedpatch
>> and find out what all the fuss was about; charge admission and use the
>> proceeds to buy a thousand acres of land for a new community garden......
>> with, you guessed it, lots of weeds; the freedom to be a weed and do as
>> all
>> good weeds do, grow tall and strong, go forth and multiply, become mulch
>> and feed
>> future generations.
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Michael Pilarski via permaculture <
>> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>
>>  To whom it may concern, It has come to my attention that Bob Waldrop has
>>> been citedfor growing weeds in his yard. I have looked over his list and
>>> see no plants that therethat are considered noxious weeds with the
>>> exception of butterfly bush(Buddleia davidii) which is considered a weed
>>> in
>>> some states.  Alfalfa for instance is one of the main cropsgrown in
>>> western
>>> United States. Blueberries, blackberries, nanking cherries andmany other
>>> plants he mentions are commonly and widely grown as crops by farmersand
>>> gardeners.  Some of the plants arenative, such as yarrow, butterfly weed
>>> (Asclepias tuberosa) Eupatorium, prairierose, and sunflower.  Some are
>>> widelygrown ornamental plants such as hollyhock, day lily and Delphinium.
>>>   Permaculture gardens, such as Bob Waldrop’s, are oftenwilder looking
>>> then
>>> some gardening methods, but it is a valid gardening systemused by
>>> thousands
>>> (if not millions) of people worldwide.   My credentials for vetting his
>>> plant list are a 40-year careerin horticulture and agriculture. Michael
>>> Pilarski, Friends of the Trees Society Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
>>> Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds
>>>
>>> Sign up for my newsletter at www.friendsofthetrees.net
>>> www.facebook.com/michael.skeeter.pilarski
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       On Monday, May 25, 2015 5:42 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   Please do! Email me a letter (pdf!)  Include some verbage like below
>>> regarding your credentials.
>>>
>>> rmw
>>>
>>> On 5/25/2015 6:17 PM, Lawrence London wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  so. . . I need someone with some horticultural credentials to certify
>>>>> that in their opinion, the following list of plants are NOT weeds.  As
>>>>> previously noted. . . OKC
>>>>> code enforcement is once again attacking the abundance of my yard.  See
>>>>> the pictures at http://www.bobwaldrop.net/?p=1803.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been cited for tall grass and weeds.  One of my defenses is that
>>>>> none of my plants are weeds.  To show that this is more than my
>>>>> personal
>>>>> opinion, I am looking for people with any kind of horticultural
>>>>> credentials (degrees, jobs, etc) who would sign a statement along the
>>>>> lines of --
>>>>>
>>>>>  Job: owned and ran a landscape design, contracting & maintenance
>>>> company
>>>> for 16 years;
>>>> often 7 jobs going at once in 3 counties and occasionally 5 employees. I
>>>> know a weed from
>>>> a food/ornamental/medicinal/culinary/specimen plant. Since that time I
>>>>
>>> own
>>>
>>>> farmland in a rural area whereon
>>>> I have food producing market gardens within an elaborate (water,
>>>> nutrient
>>>> and erosion management & ongoing soil quality improvement system
>>>> [expensive]) permaculture system.
>>>> I can speak with authority about the difference between weeds and
>>>> "economic" botanicals as can most of the 849 subscribers to this
>>>>
>>> sometimes
>>>
>>>> exotic forum.
>>>> Most of my landscaping work was in urban and suburban areas with
>>>>
>>> occasional
>>>
>>>> jobs in rural subdivisions and on rural properties.
>>>> I'll take a picture of one of my yards with WEEDS approaching 4 feet in
>>>> height, by design [want the grasses. clover and vetch to go to seed; the
>>>> greater burdock will get scythed].
>>>> Let me know how I can help, Bob.
>>>>
>>>> LL
>>>>
>>>>  These plants are not weeds.  They are plants that are ornamental,
>>>>> useful, edible, or provide important ecosystem services for bees and
>>>>> butterflies. Growing these plants in an urban area is an important
>>>>> public service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or words to that effect anyway.  My hearing is June 2nd.  I would like
>>>>>
>>>> to
>>>
>>>> collect as many letters as possible on this, doesn't matter if
>>>>> people are from Oklahoma City or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> The plants growing at my place are:
>>>>>
>>>>> Alfalfa
>>>>> Apple Mint
>>>>> Blackberries
>>>>> Blueberries
>>>>> Butterfly bush
>>>>> Butterfly weed
>>>>> Cannas
>>>>> Clove currants
>>>>> Comfrey
>>>>> Crimson clover
>>>>> Daylilies
>>>>> Delphinium
>>>>> Eupatoria
>>>>> Hairy vetch
>>>>> Hardy hibiscus
>>>>> Hollyhocks
>>>>> Jerusalem artichokes
>>>>> Lambs ears
>>>>> Liatris
>>>>> Loofa vine
>>>>> Maximilien sunflowers
>>>>> Morning glories
>>>>> Nanking cherries
>>>>> Native sunflowers
>>>>> Oregano
>>>>> Pole beans
>>>>> Prairie roses
>>>>> Prickly pear
>>>>> Scarlett runner bean
>>>>> Spearmint
>>>>> Walking Onions
>>>>> White Dutch clover
>>>>> Yarrow
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone willing to help with this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Waldrop
>>>>> Oklahoma City
>>>>>
>>>>>
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