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[Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>]

I am thinking about making the hearing a FB event, lol.

rmw

On 5/25/2015 8:54 PM, Lawrence London wrote:
> All this should go viral. Do a kickstarter to pay for banner headlines in
> all mainstream newspapers.
> Could evolve into a major convocation in Ok City; thousands of cars jamming
> the streets filled with people wanting to see Bob's Weedpatch
> and find out what all the fuss was about; charge admission and use the
> proceeds to buy a thousand acres of land for a new community garden......
> with, you guessed it, lots of weeds; the freedom to be a weed and do as all
> good weeds do, grow tall and strong, go forth and multiply, become mulch
> and feed
> future generations.
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Michael Pilarski via permaculture <
> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> > To whom it may concern, It has come to my attention that Bob Waldrop has
> > been citedfor growing weeds in his yard. I have looked over his list and
> > see no plants that therethat are considered noxious weeds with the
> > exception of butterfly bush(Buddleia davidii) which is considered a weed in
> > some states.  Alfalfa for instance is one of the main cropsgrown in western
> > United States. Blueberries, blackberries, nanking cherries andmany other
> > plants he mentions are commonly and widely grown as crops by farmersand
> > gardeners.  Some of the plants arenative, such as yarrow, butterfly weed
> > (Asclepias tuberosa) Eupatorium, prairierose, and sunflower.  Some are
> > widelygrown ornamental plants such as hollyhock, day lily and Delphinium.
> >   Permaculture gardens, such as Bob Waldrop’s, are oftenwilder looking then
> > some gardening methods, but it is a valid gardening systemused by thousands
> > (if not millions) of people worldwide.   My credentials for vetting his
> > plant list are a 40-year careerin horticulture and agriculture. Michael
> > Pilarski, Friends of the Trees Society Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
> > Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds
> >
> > Sign up for my newsletter at www.friendsofthetrees.net
> > www.facebook.com/michael.skeeter.pilarski
> >
> >
> >
> >       On Monday, May 25, 2015 5:42 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >   Please do! Email me a letter (pdf!)  Include some verbage like below
> > regarding your credentials.
> >
> > rmw
> >
> > On 5/25/2015 6:17 PM, Lawrence London wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > so. . . I need someone with some horticultural credentials to certify
> > > > that in their opinion, the following list of plants are NOT weeds.  As
> > > > previously noted. . . OKC
> > > > code enforcement is once again attacking the abundance of my yard.  See
> > > > the pictures at http://www.bobwaldrop.net/?p=1803.
> > > >
> > > > I have been cited for tall grass and weeds.  One of my defenses is that
> > > > none of my plants are weeds.  To show that this is more than my personal
> > > > opinion, I am looking for people with any kind of horticultural
> > > > credentials (degrees, jobs, etc) who would sign a statement along the
> > > > lines of --
> > > Job: owned and ran a landscape design, contracting & maintenance company
> > > for 16 years;
> > > often 7 jobs going at once in 3 counties and occasionally 5 employees. I
> > > know a weed from
> > > a food/ornamental/medicinal/culinary/specimen plant. Since that time I
> > own
> > > farmland in a rural area whereon
> > > I have food producing market gardens within an elaborate (water, nutrient
> > > and erosion management & ongoing soil quality improvement system
> > > [expensive]) permaculture system.
> > > I can speak with authority about the difference between weeds and
> > > "economic" botanicals as can most of the 849 subscribers to this
> > sometimes
> > > exotic forum.
> > > Most of my landscaping work was in urban and suburban areas with
> > occasional
> > > jobs in rural subdivisions and on rural properties.
> > > I'll take a picture of one of my yards with WEEDS approaching 4 feet in
> > > height, by design [want the grasses. clover and vetch to go to seed; the
> > > greater burdock will get scythed].
> > > Let me know how I can help, Bob.
> > >
> > > LL
> > >
> > > > These plants are not weeds.  They are plants that are ornamental,
> > > > useful, edible, or provide important ecosystem services for bees and
> > > > butterflies. Growing these plants in an urban area is an important
> > > > public service.
> > > >
> > > > Or words to that effect anyway.  My hearing is June 2nd.  I would like
> > to
> > > > collect as many letters as possible on this, doesn't matter if
> > > > people are from Oklahoma City or not.
> > > >
> > > > The plants growing at my place are:
> > > >
> > > > Alfalfa
> > > > Apple Mint
> > > > Blackberries
> > > > Blueberries
> > > > Butterfly bush
> > > > Butterfly weed
> > > > Cannas
> > > > Clove currants
> > > > Comfrey
> > > > Crimson clover
> > > > Daylilies
> > > > Delphinium
> > > > Eupatoria
> > > > Hairy vetch
> > > > Hardy hibiscus
> > > > Hollyhocks
> > > > Jerusalem artichokes
> > > > Lambs ears
> > > > Liatris
> > > > Loofa vine
> > > > Maximilien sunflowers
> > > > Morning glories
> > > > Nanking cherries
> > > > Native sunflowers
> > > > Oregano
> > > > Pole beans
> > > > Prairie roses
> > > > Prickly pear
> > > > Scarlett runner bean
> > > > Spearmint
> > > > Walking Onions
> > > > White Dutch clover
> > > > Yarrow
> > > >
> > > > Anyone willing to help with this?
> > > >
> > > > Bob Waldrop
> > > > Oklahoma City
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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