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[Michael Pilarski <friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com>]

To whom it may concern, It has come to my attention that Bob Waldrop has been 
citedfor growing weeds in his yard. I have looked over his list and see no 
plants that therethat are considered noxious weeds with the exception of 
butterfly bush(Buddleia davidii) which is considered a weed in some states.  
Alfalfa for instance is one of the main cropsgrown in western United States. 
Blueberries, blackberries, nanking cherries andmany other plants he mentions 
are commonly and widely grown as crops by farmersand gardeners.  Some of the 
plants arenative, such as yarrow, butterfly weed (Asclepias tuberosa) 
Eupatorium, prairierose, and sunflower.  Some are widelygrown ornamental 
plants such as hollyhock, day lily and Delphinium.   Permaculture gardens, 
such as Bob Waldrop’s, are oftenwilder looking then some gardening methods, 
but it is a valid gardening systemused by thousands (if not millions) of 
people worldwide.   My credentials for vetting his plant list are a 40-year 
careerin horticulture and agriculture. Michael Pilarski, Friends of the Trees 
Society Michael "Skeeter" Pilarski
Permaculture - Wildcrafting - Medicinal Herbs & Seeds

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     On Monday, May 25, 2015 5:42 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net> wrote:
   

 Please do! Email me a letter (pdf!)  Include some verbage like below 
regarding your credentials.

rmw

On 5/25/2015 6:17 PM, Lawrence London wrote:
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net> wrote:
>
>> so. . . I need someone with some horticultural credentials to certify
>> that in their opinion, the following list of plants are NOT weeds.  As
>> previously noted. . . OKC
>> code enforcement is once again attacking the abundance of my yard.  See
>> the pictures at http://www.bobwaldrop.net/?p=1803.
>>
>> I have been cited for tall grass and weeds.  One of my defenses is that
>> none of my plants are weeds.  To show that this is more than my personal
>> opinion, I am looking for people with any kind of horticultural
>> credentials (degrees, jobs, etc) who would sign a statement along the
>> lines of --
>>
> Job: owned and ran a landscape design, contracting & maintenance company
> for 16 years;
> often 7 jobs going at once in 3 counties and occasionally 5 employees. I
> know a weed from
> a food/ornamental/medicinal/culinary/specimen plant. Since that time I own
> farmland in a rural area whereon
> I have food producing market gardens within an elaborate (water, nutrient
> and erosion management & ongoing soil quality improvement system
> [expensive]) permaculture system.
> I can speak with authority about the difference between weeds and
> "economic" botanicals as can most of the 849 subscribers to this sometimes
> exotic forum.
> Most of my landscaping work was in urban and suburban areas with occasional
> jobs in rural subdivisions and on rural properties.
> I'll take a picture of one of my yards with WEEDS approaching 4 feet in
> height, by design [want the grasses. clover and vetch to go to seed; the
> greater burdock will get scythed].
> Let me know how I can help, Bob.
>
> LL
>
>> These plants are not weeds.  They are plants that are ornamental,
>> useful, edible, or provide important ecosystem services for bees and
>> butterflies. Growing these plants in an urban area is an important
>> public service.
>>
>> Or words to that effect anyway.  My hearing is June 2nd.  I would like to
>> collect as many letters as possible on this, doesn't matter if
>> people are from Oklahoma City or not.
>>
>> The plants growing at my place are:
>>
>> Alfalfa
>> Apple Mint
>> Blackberries
>> Blueberries
>> Butterfly bush
>> Butterfly weed
>> Cannas
>> Clove currants
>> Comfrey
>> Crimson clover
>> Daylilies
>> Delphinium
>> Eupatoria
>> Hairy vetch
>> Hardy hibiscus
>> Hollyhocks
>> Jerusalem artichokes
>> Lambs ears
>> Liatris
>> Loofa vine
>> Maximilien sunflowers
>> Morning glories
>> Nanking cherries
>> Native sunflowers
>> Oregano
>> Pole beans
>> Prairie roses
>> Prickly pear
>> Scarlett runner bean
>> Spearmint
>> Walking Onions
>> White Dutch clover
>> Yarrow
>>
>> Anyone willing to help with this?
>>
>> Bob Waldrop
>> Oklahoma City
>>
>>
>>
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Hmmm Maybe Stephen Barstow..copied in here ??

http://permanentpublications.co.uk/port/around-the-world-in-80-plants-an-edible-perennial-vegetable-adventure-for-temperate-climates-by-stephen-barstow/

Steve Hart

On 26 May 2015 at 09:46, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net> wrote:

>
> so. . . I need someone with some horticultural credentials to certify
> that in their opinion, the following list of plants are NOT weeds.  As
> previously noted. . . OKC
> code enforcement is once again attacking the abundance of my yard.  See
> the pictures at http://www.bobwaldrop.net/?p=1803.
>
> I have been cited for tall grass and weeds.  One of my defenses is that
> none of my plants are weeds.  To show that this is more than my personal
> opinion, I am looking for people with any kind of horticultural
> credentials (degrees, jobs, etc) who would sign a statement along the
> lines of --
>
> These plants are not weeds.  They are plants that are ornamental,
> useful, edible, or provide important ecosystem services for bees and
> butterflies. Growing these plants in an urban area is an important
> public service.
>
> Or words to that effect anyway.  My hearing is June 2nd.  I would like to
> collect as many letters as possible on this, doesn't matter if
> people are from Oklahoma City or not.
>
> The plants growing at my place are:
>
> Alfalfa
> Apple Mint
> Blackberries
> Blueberries
> Butterfly bush
> Butterfly weed
> Cannas
> Clove currants
> Comfrey
> Crimson clover
> Daylilies
> Delphinium
> Eupatoria
> Hairy vetch
> Hardy hibiscus
> Hollyhocks
> Jerusalem artichokes
> Lambs ears
> Liatris
> Loofa vine
> Maximilien sunflowers
> Morning glories
> Nanking cherries
> Native sunflowers
> Oregano
> Pole beans
> Prairie roses
> Prickly pear
> Scarlett runner bean
> Spearmint
> Walking Onions
> White Dutch clover
> Yarrow
>
> Anyone willing to help with this?
>
> Bob Waldrop
> Oklahoma City
>
>
>
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> site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture [searchstring]
> Permaculture Institute USA http://permaculture.org
> How to permaculture your urban lifestyle
> http://www.ipermie.net
> Avant Geared  https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared/
> https://plus.google.com/+Avantgeared
> Permaculture: -- portal to an expanding global network of landtech
> pioneers practicing and teaching permaculture
> while designing ecological, biointensive land use systems with integrated
> elements for synergy, sustainability, regeneration and enhanced
> nature-compatible
> human habitat --
>



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