permaculture

[Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>]

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From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Breeding plants in diverse communities may lead
to more productive plants
To: Alia Tsang <alia@dietrick.org>


On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Alia Tsang <alia@dietrick.org> wrote:

> That's really interesting about the clover, I'll have to read more
>

I will try to find the articles in question and post them here.
The original one was so obscrure; I just ran across it in a newsgroup and
saved it.
Each year I have to do a big search to find it and the last time I did this
I tried to make sure
I could put my hand on it easily. This time there will be several replies
from others familiar with this research.
I am sure it is online somewhere in my ibiblio website.

LL

> about it. The fungus I'm looking at doing my masters work with is an
> endophyte that might by mycorrhiza-like, but the interesting thing is
> it's also saprotrophic so it can be more easily cultured than most
> mycorrhizae (because you need a host to grow mycorrhizae). It has the
> potential to be more useful as a crop inoculant than mycorrhizae, but
> there questions about what conditions it'd be helpful. (Mycorrhizae
> kind of act like parasites if you have a super fertilized conventional
> crop because the plant doesn't need any help.) The lab I'm in is more
> ecology focused, trying to figure out its role in its natural
> ecosystem, but you need to have an idea of that to know to apply it to
> agriculture.
>
> It's actually not hard to convince a lab to let you give them free
> labor.... :)
>
> a
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Alia Tsang <alia@dietrick.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not officially in school, just hanging around a lab until I can start
> >
> >
> > That would be a dream situation for many people; you are fortunate.
> >
> >>
> >> a masters. I'm planning on doing research with symbiotic fungi like
> >> mycorrhizae (and all their friends), looking at how they affect the
> >> community and how environment affects the symbiosis.
> >>
> > Fantastic! That should be a lifetime of work though I am sure that
> research
> > should lead to other fields of study that you might want to pursue.
> > In my information collection on and off line I have references to red
> > clover, when planted in an area already colonized by various fungi,
> produces
> > a substance that
> > stimulates mycorrhizal fungi to mine even more minerals to make available
> > for uptake by plants. Some researchers thought about the idea of
> building a
> > system that would produce this substance in marketable quantities. I
> have a
> > small collection of discussion forum posts, mostly sanet-mg, about this.
> >
> > ARS : Brendan A Niemira
> >
> > www.ars.usda.gov/pandp/.../people.htm?...
> > Agricultural Research Service
> > Brendan A Niemira | | brendan.niemira@ars.usda.gov | Research Leader.
> >
> > This person posted the first reference to this phenomenon and I think it
> was
> > in some Usenet newsgroup or possibly sanet. I have posted the whole
> thread
> > to this list at least once. Have you heard about this?
> >
> > LL
> >
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Alia Tsang <alia@dietrick.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks. :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Are you in school, Alia? Graduate? What field are you studying?
> >> >
> >> > LL
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Lawrence F. London
> >> > lfljvenaura@gmail.com
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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>



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-- 
Lawrence F. London
lfljvenaura@gmail.com
http://www.avantgeared.com
https://plus.google.com/+Avantgeared
Ello: https://ello.co/ecoponderosa <https://ello.co/ecoponderosa>
Twitter: @ecoponderosa <https://twitter.com/ecoponderosa>
Reddit: ecoponderosa
Cellphone: lfljcell@gmail.com