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- From: Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming
- Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:45:05 -0700
Since I'm working on the livelihood chapters of my urban permaculture book,
Paul's post has triggered a couple more thoughts about the cost of growing
your food (and I don't mean this as criticism, just an expansion of the
ideas):
It's one thing if you are a market farmer, selling produce for money; then
your labor and land are part of cost accounting. But if you are growing some
food strictly to eat, then I don't think monetizing—commoditizing—your home
produce make sense, from either a practical or an ethical stance. Figuring
the "cost" of that food, to me, is a different kind of accounting.
Unless growing your own food reduces your income from a job, or you have the
kind of job where you can add billable hours whenever you want (I wish!) AND
you do gardening instead of doing billable work, then your home labor isn't
convertible into paid labor. But if you have a fixed salary or a limit to
your billable hours, counting your labor as part of your food costs doesn't
make sense, because working (or playing) in your garden cannot change your
income. But it does reduce food expense.
And (to dive even deeper), perhaps this work is now a source of exercise that
replaces a costly membership in a gym or avoids a coronary bypass. So there
are net benefits, but no real convertibility into income lost or gained. The
only costs that honest accounting could weigh against the reduction in your
grocery bill would be the actual cash expenses of seeds, tools, etc. But not
labor, taxes, or land costs; those occur whether you grow food or not, so the
act of gardening doesn't magically move them into a new accounting category.
All in all, I'd avoid putting home-grown food and other non-income home
production into a monetized box unless the only reason you do it is to save
money, and even then, I think it still saves you money.
Fun for me to think about. Thanks.
Toby
http://patternliteracy.com
On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Jay Woods <woodsjaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> The cost accounting is very important.
>
> It is likely that stable, bulk foods are far cheaper in the market.
> However, specialty crops, perishables, and processed foods are likely to
> come out cheaper from your garden and kitchen.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Paul Cross <charybda@newmex.com> wrote:
>
>> One of the best ways to discover how incredibly inexpensive food is in
>> supermarkets is to start an urban farming project with very careful
>> accounting. Keep track of the harvest and taking into account the land
>> costs, labor, inputs, distribution, taxes, benefits, etc. I imagine you
>> will find that rising food prices in supermarkets are not solved by urban
>> farming. There are a host of other benefits, though.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[permaculture] Urban Farming in Wheat Ridge Colorado,
starwulf, 04/21/2014
- Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming in Wheat Ridge Colorado, Eisenhauer, 04/22/2014
- Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming in Wheat Ridge Colorado, Ernest Rando, 04/22/2014
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Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming in Wheat Ridge Colorado,
Bob Waldrop, 04/26/2014
- Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming in Wheat Ridge Colorado, Steve Hart, 04/27/2014
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming in Wheat Ridge Colorado,
Paul Cross, 04/22/2014
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Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming in Wheat Ridge Colorado,
Jay Woods, 04/22/2014
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Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming in Wheat Ridge Colorado,
Toby Hemenway, 04/23/2014
- Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming in Wheat Ridge Colorado, Koreen Brennan, 04/23/2014
- Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming, Toby Hemenway, 04/23/2014
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Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming in Wheat Ridge Colorado,
Toby Hemenway, 04/23/2014
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Re: [permaculture] Urban Farming in Wheat Ridge Colorado,
Jay Woods, 04/22/2014
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