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["John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>]

And again, I could not agree more Bob.
For myself, I think I have already reached absolute calm thinking about my 
death and I am still reasonably fit and without major health problems.
Thing is that I have seen so much destruction in my life and that is only 
speeding up. The North Pacific ocean is already a dead zone thanks to 
Fukushima. In ten years time there will be no more lions, elephants, 
gorillas and rhinos in the wild in Africa. And I can see the destruction 
going on everywhere in Ireland which was not too bad until a few years ago. 
Pollinators gone, severe damage from weather events, hundreds of excavators 
clearing the last hedges.
I am not smart enough to see light at the end of the tunnel.
John

> I used to be afraid of dying, when I was younger.  Now I'm 62, and while
> I am not anxious or looking forward to death, I am no longer afraid of
> dying. Death is part of life, the renewal of all things.  There are
> worse things than dying, one of them is continuing to suffer from a
> terrible and painful condition and extreme medical treatment, which
> happened to both of my parents.  During one of the last visits I had
> with my father, who was dying of lung cancer complicated by
> incompetent/careless medical treatment, he said, "Bobby Max, would you
> get one of my guns and just shoot me?"  He then laughed and said
> something like "well i know you can't do that but it would sure be a
> blessing if you could."  He was tired of suffering and knew his time was
> near its end, and he was ready.  I hope I have his calmness in the face
> of that inevitable.
>
> In the meantime, I shudder to think of the impact of actual working life
> extension drugs. They will be horrendously expensive, and so likely will
> be used to extend the lives of some of the most evil people on the
> planet, who will of course continue to commit their evil for even more
> years.  The nice thing about death is that it is the ultimate
> equalizer.  Rich or poor, we never get out of life alive.
>
> The permaculture relevance is that death is part of the cycle of natural
> succession for humans as well as the rest of the living ecosystem.
>
> Bob Waldrop, Oklahoma City
> http://www.ipermie.net  Permaculture your urban lifestyle & protect 
> yourself from the four horsemen of the modern apocalypse: peak oil, 
> climate instability, economic irrationality, and political criminality
>
> On 1/7/2014 1:56 PM, Toby Hemenway wrote:
> > On Jan 7, 2014, at 10:48 AM, John D'hondt wrote:
> >
> > > I think there is a reason why 3 score years and ten (or a bit longer) 
> > > may
> > > not be such a bad thing.
> > It's a bit OT, but I remember reading that a study showed that the 
> > typical 20-year-old wants to live forever, 40-year-olds want to live to 
> > be 200, 60-year-olds want to live to be 100, and 80-year-olds want 
> > another decade or so if they are in good health. It all works out. 
> > Because, like they say, getting old isn't for sissies.
> >
> > Toby
> > http://patternliteracy.com
> >
> >
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