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  • From: Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net>
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Anti-ageing compound set for human trials after turning clock back for mice | Science | theguardian.com
  • Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:01:12 -0600

I used to be afraid of dying, when I was younger. Now I'm 62, and while I am not anxious or looking forward to death, I am no longer afraid of dying. Death is part of life, the renewal of all things. There are worse things than dying, one of them is continuing to suffer from a terrible and painful condition and extreme medical treatment, which happened to both of my parents. During one of the last visits I had with my father, who was dying of lung cancer complicated by incompetent/careless medical treatment, he said, "Bobby Max, would you get one of my guns and just shoot me?" He then laughed and said something like "well i know you can't do that but it would sure be a blessing if you could." He was tired of suffering and knew his time was near its end, and he was ready. I hope I have his calmness in the face of that inevitable.

In the meantime, I shudder to think of the impact of actual working life extension drugs. They will be horrendously expensive, and so likely will be used to extend the lives of some of the most evil people on the planet, who will of course continue to commit their evil for even more years. The nice thing about death is that it is the ultimate equalizer. Rich or poor, we never get out of life alive.

The permaculture relevance is that death is part of the cycle of natural succession for humans as well as the rest of the living ecosystem.

Bob Waldrop, Oklahoma City
http://www.ipermie.net Permaculture your urban lifestyle & protect yourself
from the four horsemen of the modern apocalypse: peak oil, climate instability,
economic irrationality, and political criminality

On 1/7/2014 1:56 PM, Toby Hemenway wrote:
On Jan 7, 2014, at 10:48 AM, John D'hondt wrote:

I think there is a reason why 3 score years and ten (or a bit longer) may
not be such a bad thing.
It's a bit OT, but I remember reading that a study showed that the typical
20-year-old wants to live forever, 40-year-olds want to live to be 200,
60-year-olds want to live to be 100, and 80-year-olds want another decade or
so if they are in good health. It all works out. Because, like they say,
getting old isn't for sissies.

Toby
http://patternliteracy.com


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