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- From: Holger Hieronimi <holger@tierramor.org>
- To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Future Scenarios- STANDARDS ?
- Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 03:08:25 +0100
While I still believe in the validity of (most) of the original principles,
they make mostly sense when you design a site
and it`s often difficlult to apply them in other other domains of PC-related action
(economy & finance, education, community, health...)
However, the principle of "Energy Cycling" features a termodynamic error, we should really refomulate that one
You CAN cycle materials & nutrients in a system, but you CAN´T cycle energy, which is allways subject to entropy
personally, I like mor Davids set of principles, allthough they are probably not something for beginners
saludos
holger
El 29/12/13 08:20, permaculture-request@lists.ibiblio.org escribió:
Asunto:
[permaculture] Future Scenarios- STANDARDS ?
De:
Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
Fecha:
29/12/13 04:50
Para:
permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Good to hear critical input on such a valuable topic. As Scott says this
debate must lead to developing the whole discussion on STANDARDS. The
discussion on PC being all aboy design I absolutely agree with . For what
it is in fact is a Design Philosophy developed from a set of Ethics through
Principles. It is not methodology, or a set of recipes.
My Rebuttal LL is more a further clarification or development on my
comments about PRINCIPLES and the example of Hydroponics and Aquaponics.
I support all the original Principles of the original and still the only
qualified PDC curriculum. Offered here:
- Relative Location -- pattern relationships
- Each element performs many functions
- Each important function is supported by many elements
- Efficient energy planning (e.g. zone& sector planning)
- Maximise use of biological resources
- Energy cycling
- Small-scale intensive systems
- Plant stacking
- Accelerating succession and evolution
- Diversity
- Guilds
- Edge effect
--
Holger Hieronimi - holger@tierramor.org
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Re: [permaculture] Future Scenarios- STANDARDS ?
, (continued)
- Re: [permaculture] Future Scenarios- STANDARDS ?, Lawrence London, 12/29/2013
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[permaculture] Aquaponics: artificial?,
Toby Hemenway, 12/29/2013
- Re: [permaculture] Aquaponics: artificial?, Lois Grossman, 12/29/2013
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Re: [permaculture] Aquaponics: artificial?,
Pete Gasper, Gasper Family Farm, 12/30/2013
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Re: [permaculture] Aquaponics: artificial?,
Toby Hemenway, 12/30/2013
- Re: [permaculture] Aquaponics: artificial?, Jay Woods, 12/30/2013
- Re: [permaculture] Aquaponics: artificial?, Koreen Brennan, 12/30/2013
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Re: [permaculture] Aquaponics: artificial?,
Pete Gasper, Gasper Family Farm, 12/31/2013
- Re: [permaculture] Aquaponics: artificial?, Steve Waldron, 12/31/2013
- Re: [permaculture] Aquaponics: artificial?, Heenandoherty, 12/30/2013
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Re: [permaculture] Aquaponics: artificial?,
Toby Hemenway, 12/30/2013
- Re: [permaculture] Future Scenarios- STANDARDS ?, Holger Hieronimi, 12/30/2013
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