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[Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>]

Maybe according to you Lawrence..who is active in every facet of this forum
because it is yours and you need to be...and doing a great job,
congratulations to you please keep it up...many of us are far less active
and like me I guess many do not read every word of every posting and do not
even have time to reply. So take a deep breath and respect others
capacities beyond your own. After all any posting on this site is a good
one....imagine the thoughts that don't get posted ?

The recent postings on the subject of hydroponics IMO are very valuable in
order to assist those of lesser knowledge and experience on the subject
that tere are in fact other viewpoints which need serious
consideration....its not a Ho'lotta hype

On the subject of hydroponics I do recall a recent debate raging about
acquaponics which like hydroponics has little to do with
Permacultureunless you are supplementing your diet with water products
like "Water
Cress" which I do love and know it has a great range of mineral depending
what water it comes from. Like previous comments if its not from a rich
natural source in response to working with nature then...I'm afraid you did
the wrong PDC...and its only a whole lotta hype if ya don't get it and keep
beating on about something that is not. Like the principles that should
have been taught in a PDC if ya dont get it ya dont get it....IMO Steve Hart


On 7 April 2013 16:06, venaurafarm <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> On 4/6/2013 10:11 PM, Douglas Hinds wrote:
>
> > Wikipedia defines hydroponics as follows:
> >
> >      *Hydroponics* is a subset of hydroculture and is a method of growing
> >      plants <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant> using mineral nutrient
> >      <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrient> solutions, in water,
> without
> >      soil <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil>. Terrestrial plants may be
> >      grown with their roots <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root> in the
> >      mineral nutrient solution only or in an inert medium,
> >
> >
> > Which the way I understand hydroponics:  There's no soil, no
> > soil-food-web, no soil biology - it's not even agriculture (much less
> > permaculture), which helps explain why I become distempered if I eat
> > even a little (something which I would not knowingly do).
> >
> > Distempered in the sense that steel can lose it's temper.  I notice this
> > phenomena in 1973, living somewhere hydroponic tomatoes (and not much
> > else) were available.  Loss of focus and momentum, drive, dynamism,
> > orientation - no wonder your grandchildren won't eat them.
> >
> > It's an anti-biological, anti-evolutionary technology.
>
> Ho' lotta hype. We have been through this already, in the list, with
> significant input. Yes to hydroponics and soil foodweb, natural
> nutrients, aeration, compost tea,, etc etc etc.
> Ask Toby about this and sort through the archives for the thread on
> aquaponics and hydroponics within the past 8 months.
>
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*Steve Hart*
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