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["Frances and David" <fdnokes@hotmail.com>]

Wow, lots of food for thought here, Dieter!  (You were always a bright spot 
on the Fukuoka list)
In the meantime, want to jump in on a tangent ~
Yes, I noticed on the Fukuoka list that there was a lot of input from 
'abroad' speaking from my NA-centric point of view.
However, as I understand it, the practice of natural farming goes way back 
in the roots of the indigenous cultures of NA and elsewhere, including such 
place as Central America.
Or, perhaps the point is that the traditions of natural farming have 
survived in these other cultures, whereas abrupt shifts in population in the 
Americas meant huge losses of cultural habits of adaptation?
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Looking at your list now, this is the area that most interests me:
"- Practical methods for adopting NF to different regions"
(and, of course, examples are always inspiration points for the above.)
What boggles the mind somewhat is the variety of regions and zones and how 
much the quality of 'inputs' to the system can change accordingly.
I feel like I did when I was a fledgling teacher... I was collecting 
materials but waiting for the day when I'd find my focus and not have to 
collect quite so much stuff!
Once I am settled in an area, I can get down to the business of adapting, 
learning and responding to a specific set of conditions.
In the meantime, I can learn the principles of adaptation, and the things to 
observe in any set of conditions.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Dieter Brand
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:37 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] fukuoka_farming mailing list needs 
aco-moderator.

> I put forth the idea that natural farming receives discourse
> on this list

I think nobody will object to natural farming issues being discussed on this 
list; however, I suspect that there may not be sufficient interest to 
generate a lively discussion.

My idea has been a general Natural Farming list which would host discussions 
related to different schools of Natural Farming.  In my experience, 
discussion of methods used by different schools of Natural Farming is often 
met by hostility on the Fukuoka list.  That's why I gave up.

My preferred Natural Farming (NF) list would include discussions on:
- NF according MOA (Mokiichi Okada Association)
- EM according to Prof. Hige, which is a continuation of MOA
- NF according to Shumei, which is a splinter group of MOA
- NF according to Fukuoka
- NF according to Kawaguchi, which is the most popular today
- Korean Natural Farming according to Dr. Cho
- Philippines Natural farming which is inspired by Dr. Cho
- Examples of NF in India
- Examples of NF in the West
- Practical methods for adopting NF to different regions
- Examples of traditional farming compatible with NF
- Others.

The trouble is that most NF traditions are of Far Eastern origin and, except 
for Fukuoka, not readily available in English.  That explains probably why 
the only discussion is on Fukuoka.
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