permaculture

[elizabeth bell <whatintheworld1234@gmail.com>]

at this point in time, i wonder if zones of climate are changing. one of my
favorite trees in Arkansas is the wild persimmon.  their fruit is delicious.
i love this tree! somewhere i read that these trees start to produce
abundant fruit fifty years after being planted. who knows what the climate
will be like in 50 years. why not try some persimmons?

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Neil Bertrando 
<neilbertrando@gmail.com>wrote:

> check with Horizon Herbs seed company. for some of the native seed
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the nursery contacts, guys - most of my contacts are for
> > tropical/semi-tropical so this is great!  We did end up getting more than
> > 600 trees from the forest service, closing out their bare root season at
> 45
> > cents per tree!  Lots of honey locust, plus nanking cherry, rugosa rose,
> > buffalo berry, siberian pea (love this plant), hackberry, hawthorn,
> > cottonwood, pine, and more. Many of these trees serve multiple functions,
> > some are sacred to Lakota, and all grow well here. We got them all in the
> > ground fast and many of them are already budding. The weather has
> cooperated
> > beautifully, not too hot, and rain. So exciting to watch them bud! I hear
> > you about them growing up fast. We scarfed some currants for really cheap
> > too. And found out that the University sells bare root for 50 cents per
> tree
> > in season.
> > Now I'm looking for some native edibles such as buffalo bean (ground plum
> > milk vetch), wild sarsasparilla, biscuit root, cow parsnip, American
> > licorice, and more.
> >
> > --- On Fri, 6/24/11, Jason Gerhardt <jasongerhardt@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Jason Gerhardt <jasongerhardt@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [permaculture] Food forest on the rez
> > To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 11:09 AM
> >
> > To add to Neil's great nursery list, I have to highly recommend St.
> > Lawrence
> > Nursery.  They are in Potsdam, NY very near the Canadian border.  Of
> course
> > their climate is much wetter, but their trees are extremely hardy here at
> > high elevation in the Rockies and in the lowlands on the windy, dry
> plains.
> >  Their planting guide is a treasure trove of useful tips for cold clime
> > fruit tree raising.  They also grow their trees under organic conditions,
> > which I think is just as important as climate, since organic culture is
> > like
> > a climate of it's own so to speak.
> >
> > For the cold, dry prairie landscape as Neil said often the state forest
> > service will have a windbreak tree program where they sell extremely
> cheap
> > trees.  We bought 250 bareroot pea shrubs, buffaloberries, nanking
> > cherries,
> > juniper, and golden currants from the Colorado State Forest Service this
> > year for $.75-$1.50 per tree depending on variety.
> >
> > Lastly, I highly recommend starting with small bareroot trees.  Nothing
> > will
> > take to a new challenging location like a young sapling size tree.  I've
> > seen very small trees newly planted catch up with newly planted large
> trees
> > many years older within a couple years.  Smaller stock also makes the job
> > of
> > digging and irrigating much less laborious.
> >
> > --
> > Jason Gerhardt
> > Permaculture Designer and Educator
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