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Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture
- From: Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture
- Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 15:54:04 -0700 (PDT)
Peat moss is horribly unsustainable! No reason to ever use it. Coconut coir
is the "peat moss" of choice for sustainable gardeners, if it is practical to
get it to your location. It's a wonderful material, but yes, you would mix
it with compost. What else have people used? Has anybody tried pulverized
and microbe soaked biochar mixed with compost? It does not have to be
perfect to get seeds going nicely. Seeds grow in a wide variety of conditions
all the time. I have been in a number of situations where I did not have
perfect seed starter or even very ideal but yet got decent crops.
Cory
--- On Thu, 4/7/11, David Muhl <dmuhl65@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: David Muhl <dmuhl65@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, April 7, 2011, 10:18 AM
I too have been avoiding the use of peat moss for the same reasons Robyn has
listed.
Coconut coir seems like a great alternative in that it offers most of the
same benefits as peat moss (as a seed mix/soil conditioner), but is less
acidic and "re-wets" easier. I have read that coir can however (depending
where it is sourced) contain excess salts, and it might be wise to rinse it
thoroughly after initial rehydration if you are not sure. I've also heard it
can require additional decomposition, and may temporarily tie up nitrogen in
your soil mix. If this is true, it might make sense to pre-mix this material
into some compost (or your finished soil mix), and let it sit for a couple
weeks before using.
Other things to consider are the extra expense and the carbon footprint
involved in getting this material to your location. There surely aren't many
coconut palms growing anywhere near where I live...that's for sure! I think
we should always be experimenting with our own endemic substitutes for such
products.
We don't need to create the "absolute best" seed starting medium at any
expense...we just need a "reasonably good" mix that doesn't endanger the
resilience and diversity of natural ecosystems, and is locally sourced.
--- On Wed, 4/6/11, Robyn Francis <robyn@permaculture.com.au> wrote:
> From: Robyn Francis <robyn@permaculture.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 2:41 PM
> Here we don't encourage the use of
> peat in any form as much of it is
> extracted from fragile ecosystems and is a non-renewable
> resource. The
> horticulture and nursery industries have decimated ancient
> boglands, moors
> and other sensitive environments around the world.
>
> We use coir or coco-peat as a substitute in our potting
> mixes, which is made
> from the fibres of coconut husks, a renewable resource
> processed from a wast
> product of harvesting coconuts for food.
>
> Roby
>
>
> On 7/04/11 1:08 AM, "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > From ATTRA:
> >
> > The following four recipes are credited to Eliot
> Coleman. The first
> > was published in the Winter 1994 issue of NOFA-NJ
> Organic News, in an
> > article by Emily Brown-Rosen. The remaining three are
> adapted from
> > Coleman's book The New Organic Grower (see Appendix
> 2).
> >
> > Organic potting mix
> >
> > 1 part sphagnum peat
> > 1 part peat humus (short fiber)
> > 1 part compost
> > 1 part sharp sand (builder's)
> >
> > To every 80 quarts of this add:
> >
> > 1 cup greensand
> > 1 cup colloidal phosphate
> > 1 1/2 to 2 cups crab meal, or
> blood meal
> > 1/2 cup lime
> >
> > Blocking mix recipe
> >
> > 3 buckets (standard 10-quart
> bucket) brown peat
> > 1/2 cup lime (mix well)
> > 2 buckets coarse sand or perlite
> > 3 cups base fertilizer (blood
> meal, colloidal phosphate, and
> > greensand mixed together in equal parts)
> > 1 bucket soil
> > 2 buckets compost
> >
> > Mix all ingredients together thoroughly. Coleman does
> not sterilize
> > potting soils; he believes that damp-off and similar
> seedling problems
> > are the result of overwatering, lack of air movement,
> not enough sun,
> > over-fertilization, and other cultural mistakes.
> >
> > Blocking mix recipe for larger quantities
> >
> > 30 units brown peat
> > 1/8 unit lime
> > 20 units coarse sand or perlite
> > 3/4 unit base fertilizer (blood
> meal, colloidal phosphate, and
> > greensand mixed together in equal parts)
> > 10 units soil
> > 20 units compost
> >
> > Mini-block recipe
> >
> > 16 parts brown peat
> > 1/4 part colloidal phosphate
> > 1/4 part greensand
> > 4 parts compost (well decomposed)
> >
> > Note: If greensand is unavailable, leave it out. Do
> not substitute a
> > dried seaweed product in this mix.
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[permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 04/06/2011
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture,
David Muhl, 04/07/2011
- Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture, Cory Brennan, 04/07/2011
- Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 04/07/2011
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Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 04/08/2011
- Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture, Toby Hemenway, 04/08/2011
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Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture,
David Muhl, 04/09/2011
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Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture,
wenshidi@yahoo.co.uk, 04/09/2011
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Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture,
Amy Little, 04/11/2011
- Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture, Cory Brennan, 04/12/2011
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Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture,
Amy Little, 04/11/2011
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Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture,
wenshidi@yahoo.co.uk, 04/09/2011
- Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture, Jason Gerhardt, 04/08/2011
- Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture, Trudie Redding, 04/08/2011
- Re: [permaculture] Eliot Coleman's seed starting mixture, Norris Thomlinson, 04/09/2011
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