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Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes
- From: Linda Ray <lindaray@att.net>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes
- Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:48:31 -0800 (PST)
Yep, that's Green Deane from www.EatTheWeeds.com . He's great and has about
65 videos on Youtube, each focussed on a different Florida wild edible.
It has become quite a body of work.
Very cool.
Linda
--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in
urban landscapes
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 7:40 PM
We've had similar results in our garden, letting stuff seed. The lettuce that
grows where it "shouldn't be," like in the paths, is some of the best we ever
grow - seems the seeds know where to sprout on their own, surprise.
Here is a list of Florida wild edibles. We try to put as many natives as
possible in our yards and our seed balls. :-)
http://www.wildfloridian.com/EdiblePlants.html
This guy is phenomenal, a real treasure for anyone in our neck of the weeds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ilk3VWHbCw&feature=related
Cory
--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Kelly Simmons <kelly@bouldersustainability.org> wrote:
> From: Kelly Simmons <kelly@bouldersustainability.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops
> in urban landscapes
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 4:16 PM
> Hi Keith - There has been much
> discussion about censorship on the list, but I don't think
> guerilla gardening is one of the off limits topics.
> :-)
>
> My favorite method of gardening with annuals is to let a
> few specimens go to seed - so much less work and the
> volunteers are quite hardy. When they pop up in the
> Spring I move them around to where i want them. My
> garden beds are sheet mulched so it isn't quite wild
> guerilla gardening, but things do sprout in the paths quite
> often. Annuals and bi-annuals that have readily seeded
> themselves and yielded edible offspring in our high desert
> region, Colorado, include carrots, kale, chard, arugula,
> parsley, cilantro, tomatoes, pumpkins, lettuce, walking
> onions, potatoes (didn't get them all), garlic, catnip,
> sunflowers, lemon balm, and borage.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:
>
> > Send failed. Trying again. This has happened MANY
> times in the last few months. Is anyone else having this
> problem?
> > K
> >
> >
> > -----Forwarded Message-----
> > From: Keith D Johnson
> > Sent: Oct 31, 2010 9:46 AM
> > To: Permaculture Ibiblio List
> > Subject: Censorship: was Encouraging
> "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes
> >
> > The first 4 times I sent this to the list
> it never made it. Maybe it was because it had the word
> "guerilla" in the subject line.
> > I never heard back from anyone about
> their own local "volunteer" crops, though I'm curious to
> compare notes.
> > So, who is stopping email from reaching
> the list? ISPs?
> > Should we be concerned?
> > Has anyone else experienced this kind of
> censorship?
> > Thanks,
> > Keith
> >
> >
> > -----Forwarded
> Message-----
> > From: Keith D Johnson
> > Sent: Sep 24, 2010 4:33 PM
> > To: Permaculture Ibiblio
> List
> > Subject: Encouraging
> "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes
> >
> > Any groups like these
> (below) happening in your regions?
> >
> > In Bloomington, IN, there
> are lots of community gardens, a new community orchard,
> urban farmers, farmers markets, university gardeners, local
> seed growers / sellers cooperation, increasing levels of
> garden / farmer training and support.
> >
> > We don't have any
> "official" guerilla gardening groups locally (that I know
> of) but as a seed saver I find myself thinking about all the
> things in my garden that could grow on their own, or with
> little support, in wilder urban niches. I have in mind a
> diversity of plants with multiple yields and the creation of
> mixed seed collections of locally adapted, low maintenance,
> often self-sowing, occasionally high nutritional value,
> beneficial insect / bee / butterfly attracting, colorful,
> fragrant, sometimes perennial, economically valuable,
> nitrogen-fixing, wildlife food / habitat, and
> mineral-accumulating types of plants that could also
> partially self-employ those who establish / manage / harvest
> them.
> >
> > Maybe a tall order but
> doable, I think..
> >
> > A few of the plants that
> would lend themselves to some neglect under less-cared-for
> conditions in my local (going on zone 7 [was zone 5 25
> years ago]) list include (in no particular order)
> >
> > amaranth,
> > magenta lamb's quarters,
> > cilantro,
> > dill,
> > carrot (especially the
> cosmic red and purples which bloom in rosy pinks and are
> swarmed by beneficials),
> > walking or Egyptian onion,
> > leek,
> > chard,
> > lettuce,
> > radish,
> > ground cherry (Physalis
> spp.), tomatillo,
> > broom corn (Sorghum),
> > wheat,
> > long beans,
> > lablab beans (hyacinth
> bean),
> > sunflowers,
> > balsam impatiens (I grew
> them as understory in the asparagus and scattered through
> the garden and they shaded out weedy competition
> beautifully, butterflies and pollinators love them, simple
> and effortless to weed),
> > cup plant (Sylphium),
> > indigo (Indigofera
> tinctoria [polygonaceae], I have white- and pink-flowered
> types of this beautiful blue-dye plant that self-sow in the
> greenhouse and outdoors);
> > the moschata branch of the
> cucurbits (solid stem, borer resistant) and includes
> tromboncino, butternut and others;
> > orach (Chenopodium),
> > motherwort (careful,
> succeeds easily in poor soil),
> > celosias (very elegant,
> colorful and beneficial hosts),
> > garlic (plant cloves or
> bulbils),
> > field / winter / Austrian
> peas,
> > kale,
> > collards,
> > senna (short woody, N-fix,
> bee forage, yellow flowers for 1-2 months),
> > baptisia (blue, yellow and
> white varieties, perennial, N-fix),
> > Amorpha fruticosa ("false
> indigo", bee forage, mulch, N),
> > cherry tomatoes,
> > buckwheat,
> > liatris,
> > hollyhocks,
> > zinnias,
> > marigolds,
> > hibiscus,
> > sweet potatoes,
> > stonefruit,
> > paw paws,
> > service berry (from seed
> and side shoots),
> > currant / gooseberry (from
> cuttings),
> > thornless blackberries and
> > che fruit (melon berry /
> Chinese mulberry, fig / mulberry family, can be grafted onto
> wild Osage orange [Maclura]).
> > Apples could be grafted
> onto crab apples and hawthornes, pears on to ornamental
> pears.
> >
> > What would your local lists
> look like?
> > --
> > Keith Johnson
> > "Be fruitful and mulch apply."
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[permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes,
Keith Johnson, 11/14/2010
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Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 11/15/2010
- Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 11/15/2010
- Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes, Keith Johnson, 11/15/2010
- Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes, Linda Ray, 11/15/2010
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Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes,
Kelly Simmons, 11/15/2010
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Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes,
Cory Brennan, 11/15/2010
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Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes,
Linda Ray, 11/15/2010
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Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes,
Cory Brennan, 11/15/2010
- Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes, Linda Ray, 11/16/2010
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Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes,
Cory Brennan, 11/15/2010
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Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes,
Linda Ray, 11/15/2010
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Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes,
Cory Brennan, 11/15/2010
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Re: [permaculture] Censorship: was Encouraging "volunteer" crops in urban landscapes,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 11/15/2010
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