permaculture

[Andrew Millison <amillison@gmail.com>]

I know that there are infinite variables and each project and site has its
own unique conditions. But there are a lot of numbers that have been
collected in certain circumstances: Crime rates dropping, gallons of water
collected, heat units saved after a retrofit. I'm just looking for those
tidbits of data that many Permaculturists weave into their teaching and
presenting narratives that they have sources for.

Thanks for the input thus far, I hope to get more

Andrew

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM, David Muhl <dmuhl65@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> There are just way too many variables involved in each of those example
> statements you listed to just be able to drop a number in and call it good.
>  You may be able to find some reasonably credible sources that could throw
> out a "range" for similar questions, but I think that's the best you can
> hope for.
>
> David
>
> --- On Thu, 9/2/10, Andrew Millison <amillison@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Andrew Millison <amillison@gmail.com>
> > Subject: [permaculture] Perma-Data needed!
> > To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 11:46 AM
> > Hello,
> > I'm putting together a funding proposal for a State agency
> > who are
> > requesting Permaculture training for their staff.
> >
> > I need to include data in the proposal with *verifiable
> > sources*. Some
> > examples of the types of statements I'd like to clarify and
> > back up are:
> >
> > * Intensive garden agriculture is X% more productive per
> > unit of area than
> > conventional mechanized field cropping and require X% less
> > energy/water/dollars to maintain.
> >
> > * A building with proper passive solar orientation requires
> > X% less energy
> > to heat and cool than a building not oriented for passive
> > solar.
> >
> > * A community with gathering areas/central plaza has X%
> > less crime than a
> > neighborhood without gathering areas.
> >
> > * A community planted with useful street trees can produce
> > X$ of economic
> > value per unit area versus a street planted in non-useful
> > species.
> >
> > Does anyone out there have sources for useful data to make
> > Permaculture-supporting statements? I'd really appreciate
> > any input.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andrew Millison
> > www.beaverstatepermaculture.com
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