permaculture

["Lawrence F. London, Jr." <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>]

On 8/20/2010 1:57 AM, Patrick wrote:
> Laurence said-As opposed to the old age hippy trippy (naturally,
> preferably) back to the land eco-ag-permacultural homestead types?
> You know, all those tens of thousands who did this and constituted
> the foundation of the homesteading, natural agriculture and
> permaculture revolution and movement giving us most of what we have
> and enjoy today. Maybe the new age types will consult with the old
> guard and experience an epiphany, new vigor and greater enthusiasm.
>
> Pardon me you old crank,

[sirens wailing to the point of bearing failure]
Uh oh! ***Ad Hominem Attack ALERT!!!***
Call the Thought Police and the Speech Regulatory Agency!
and the Politically Correct Advisory Board as well!

Yes, I knew you weren't a humorless jerk...

> I'm referring a totally different stripe of
> folks than you're rambling on about.

I knew exactly what you were talking about:
"the new age hippy dippy types that tend to become involved in 
permaculture"
That's pretty obvious.

> I get cynical being in Berkeley.
> It's full of cults of every sort. Some of them push permaculture.

You probably wouldn't be living there if you didn't like that 
environment. For me, it would be a breath of fresh air.

> The 70's homesteading self publishing is near and dear to me, stuff
> like Lloyd Khan, the New Alchemists, the Whole Earth Catalog,
> Christopher Alexander&  the Foxfire series. I am somewhat familiar
> with the giants who's shoulders we stand upon.

That's the wonderful stuff; everything I do revolves around that era,
and the mindset and trends originated back then, add 
Amish/Mennonite/Shaker lifestyle.

> My partner's parents
> lived that lifestyle, they still do to a certain extent but their
> once voluntary poverty is no longer optional.

Goes with the territory. I hope they are doing well. I sure would like 
to get linked up with people like them.