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  • From: pamela samuelson <mercuria69@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] permaculture Digest, Vol 87, Issue 15
  • Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:11:39 -0700

huh! so sorry. i´m not sure how that email got sent to you. i´m typing on
the weirdest keyboard ever.
please disregard, unless you would like to come to oakland and be hugged,
whoever you are.
pcws


On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:10 AM, pamela samuelson <mercuria69@gmail.com>wrote:

> word. i start class at rudramandir today & will call you when i get out.
> very excited about hugging you soon.
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:21 AM,
> <permaculture-request@lists.ibiblio.org>wrote:
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>> 1. Conflict resolution and community (Mal Teggins)
>> 2. Re: Conflict resolution and community (LBUZZELL@aol.com)
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>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:12:13 +1000
>> From: "Mal Teggins" <planetman@optushome.com.au>
>> Subject: [permaculture] Conflict resolution and community
>> To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Message-ID: <201004130312.o3D3CDVK026279@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> Great area to be passionate about, Care of People is about much more than
>> the traditional nutrition and housing etc. (zones 0-5). For us to reach
>> our
>> true permacultural potential as individuals and as a society we also need
>> to
>> focus on the psychological and spiritual aspects of our lives and that of
>> our children (sometimes referred to as zone 00).
>> It is whilst contemplating the parenting of my own children that I came
>> across a book which I recommend to anyone interested in the topic.
>>
>> "Parenting for a Peaceful World" by Robin Grille 2005 Longueville Media -
>> http://www.our-emotional-health.com/book-peacefulWorld.html .
>>
>> Robin explains the relationship between childhood experiences and adult
>> attitudes. He takes us through an account of the parenting techniques of
>> the
>> last several thousand years and their influence over some of the more
>> nasty
>> and unpleasant periods in history. He then shows us the positive evolution
>> that is taking place in parenting style that will lift our species out of
>> violence and conflict and towards the world we in permaculture are working
>> toward.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of danmk
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:29 AM
>> To: permaculture
>> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Fw: Chemtrails
>>
>> >
>> > Lawrence F. London, Jr. <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > Grass roots educational
>> > outreach program somewhere?
>> >
>>
>> Nothing so entrepreneurial, yet.. I meant to refer to the way I am
>> administering my own education.
>>
>> I'm still working on integrating the design principles with how I interact
>> with and view the my world. I have been spending a lot of time traveling.
>> Last year I was fortunate enough to work on a permaculture site in the
>> West
>> Bank, where I first realized the transformative potential of
>> permaculture's
>> approach to... anything confusing!
>>
>> I believe that permaculture has a lot to offer the realm of conflict
>> resolution and prevention. I found myself more easily able to cope with
>> the
>> levantine dynamic by regarding Israel and Palestine as a design challenge
>> instead of a conflict defined by subjective feelings of entitlement and a
>> bitter cascade of resentiment upon resentiment. And I hope to contribute
>> to
>> true solutions there one day.
>>
>> Currently I'm far far away from that world in sunny Kalama, WA. working
>> toward a deeper understanding of permaculture's foundation and
>> geneology...
>> I'm on that step number 1, long protracted observation and meditation.
>>
>> Intern status! with Abundance PC.
>>
>> But conflict resolution and community is where my heart is... So if
>> you've
>> got any insight into educational opportunities down that road I'd love to
>> explore them. My developing passion is design for the psychological
>> systems
>> we employ in our relationships to one another, and I'd love to meet a
>> permaculture designer who is already developing methodology along these
>> lines.
>>
>> Thanks for asking,
>> Dan
>>
>> On 11 April 2010 11:30, Lawrence F. London, Jr.
>> <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>>
>> > danmk wrote:
>> >
>> > > I am probably much more
>> > > dependent on this list for information than you because I am running a
>> > kind
>> > > of mono-cultural education in ecology and environmental politics right
>> > now
>> > > through my relationship with permaculture.
>> >
>> > What kind of project are you working on? Grass roots educational
>> > outreach program somewhere?
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > And: http://www.richsoil.com
>> >
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:56:23 EDT
>> From: LBUZZELL@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Conflict resolution and community
>> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
>> Message-ID: <12099.78b299c.38f5e017@aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> Hi Dan, Lawrence, Mal and all interested in this thread,
>>
>> I too am passionate about the idea of applying the permaculture principles
>> to People Care, including mental health, social health, conflict
>> resolution, community building etc. A while ago I started a google group
>> called
>> "perma-psychology" that anyone can join, and am in communication with
>> others
>> interested in this topic, like Andy Fisher of Canada, author of "Radical
>> Ecopsychology" who will be teaching a two week intensive summer course on
>> this
>> topic at the University of Vermont this year (see below). I'm currently
>> writing an essay on this for an anthology being edited by Craig Chalquist,
>> a
>> psychology professor at JFK University in the San Francisco Bay area who
>> is
>> starting his PDC this weekend. Craig and I edited an anthology called
>> "Ecotherapy: Healing with Nature in Mind" for Sierra Club Books last year.
>>
>> I'd love to hear from anyone else interested in this topic.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Linda Buzzell
>> lbuzzell @ aol . com (remove spaces)
>> _www.ecotherapyheals.com_ (http://www.ecotherapyheals.com)
>>
>>
>> Andy Fisher is teaching a two week ecopsychology intensive in June 2010.
>> It is a full credit Environmental Studies course, run through Continuing
>> Ed. For more info, go to the University of Vermont website and click on
>> "Summer University," where you?ll find details. The course is ENVS 195
>> Z4.
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 4/12/2010 8:18:25 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> planetman@optushome.com.au writes:
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> Great area to be passionate about, Care of People is about much more than
>> the traditional nutrition and housing etc. (zones 0-5). For us to reach
>> our
>> true permacultural potential as individuals and as a society we also need
>> to
>> focus on the psychological and spiritual aspects of our lives and that of
>> our children (sometimes referred to as zone 00).
>> It is whilst contemplating the parenting of my own children that I came
>> across a book which I recommend to anyone interested in the topic.
>>
>> "Parenting for a Peaceful World" by Robin Grille 2005 Longueville Media
>> -
>> http://www.our-emotional-health.com/book-peacefulWorld.html .
>>
>> Robin explains the relationship between childhood experiences and adult
>> attitudes. He takes us through an account of the parenting techniques of
>> the
>> last several thousand years and their influence over some of the more
>> nasty
>> and unpleasant periods in history. He then shows us the positive
>> evolution
>> that is taking place in parenting style that will lift our species out of
>> violence and conflict and towards the world we in permaculture are
>> working
>> toward.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of danmk
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:29 AM
>> To: permaculture
>> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Fw: Chemtrails
>>
>> >
>> > Lawrence F. London, Jr. <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > Grass roots educational
>> > outreach program somewhere?
>> >
>>
>> Nothing so entrepreneurial, yet.. I meant to refer to the way I am
>> administering my own education.
>>
>> I'm still working on integrating the design principles with how I
>> interact
>> with and view the my world. I have been spending a lot of time
>> traveling.
>> Last year I was fortunate enough to work on a permaculture site in the
>> West
>> Bank, where I first realized the transformative potential of
>> permaculture's
>> approach to... anything confusing!
>>
>> I believe that permaculture has a lot to offer the realm of conflict
>> resolution and prevention. I found myself more easily able to cope with
>> the
>> levantine dynamic by regarding Israel and Palestine as a design challenge
>> instead of a conflict defined by subjective feelings of entitlement and a
>> bitter cascade of resentiment upon resentiment. And I hope to contribute
>> to
>> true solutions there one day.
>>
>> Currently I'm far far away from that world in sunny Kalama, WA. working
>> toward a deeper understanding of permaculture's foundation and
>> geneology...
>> I'm on that step number 1, long protracted observation and meditation.
>>
>> Intern status! with Abundance PC.
>>
>> But conflict resolution and community is where my heart is... So if
>> you've
>> got any insight into educational opportunities down that road I'd love to
>> explore them. My developing passion is design for the psychological
>> systems
>> we employ in our relationships to one another, and I'd love to meet a
>> permaculture designer who is already developing methodology along these
>> lines.
>>
>> Thanks for asking,
>> Dan
>>
>> On 11 April 2010 11:30, Lawrence F. London, Jr.
>> <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>>
>> > danmk wrote:
>> >
>> > > I am probably much more
>> > > dependent on this list for information than you because I am running
>> a
>> > kind
>> > > of mono-cultural education in ecology and environmental politics
>> right
>> > now
>> > > through my relationship with permaculture.
>> >
>> > What kind of project are you working on? Grass roots educational
>> > outreach program somewhere?
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > permaculture mailing list
>> > permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
>> > Subscribe or unsubscribe here:
>> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture
>> > Google command to search archives:
>> > site: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/permaculture searchstring
>> > More information:
>> > http://venaurafarm.blogspot.com
>> > permaculture forums http://www.permies.com/permaculture-forums
>> > And: http://www.richsoil.com
>> >
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> dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a
> great
> poem...
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...re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book,
dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great
poem...
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