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  • From: pamela samuelson <mercuria69@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] permaculture Digest, Vol 87, Issue 15
  • Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:10:00 -0700

word. i start class at rudramandir today & will call you when i get out.
very excited about hugging you soon.
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On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:21 AM,
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> 1. Conflict resolution and community (Mal Teggins)
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> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:12:13 +1000
> From: "Mal Teggins" <planetman@optushome.com.au>
> Subject: [permaculture] Conflict resolution and community
> To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <201004130312.o3D3CDVK026279@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au>
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> Hi Dan,
>
> Great area to be passionate about, Care of People is about much more than
> the traditional nutrition and housing etc. (zones 0-5). For us to reach our
> true permacultural potential as individuals and as a society we also need
> to
> focus on the psychological and spiritual aspects of our lives and that of
> our children (sometimes referred to as zone 00).
> It is whilst contemplating the parenting of my own children that I came
> across a book which I recommend to anyone interested in the topic.
>
> "Parenting for a Peaceful World" by Robin Grille 2005 Longueville Media -
> http://www.our-emotional-health.com/book-peacefulWorld.html .
>
> Robin explains the relationship between childhood experiences and adult
> attitudes. He takes us through an account of the parenting techniques of
> the
> last several thousand years and their influence over some of the more nasty
> and unpleasant periods in history. He then shows us the positive evolution
> that is taking place in parenting style that will lift our species out of
> violence and conflict and towards the world we in permaculture are working
> toward.
>
> Regards,
> Mal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of danmk
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:29 AM
> To: permaculture
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Fw: Chemtrails
>
> >
> > Lawrence F. London, Jr. <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Grass roots educational
> > outreach program somewhere?
> >
>
> Nothing so entrepreneurial, yet.. I meant to refer to the way I am
> administering my own education.
>
> I'm still working on integrating the design principles with how I interact
> with and view the my world. I have been spending a lot of time traveling.
> Last year I was fortunate enough to work on a permaculture site in the West
> Bank, where I first realized the transformative potential of permaculture's
> approach to... anything confusing!
>
> I believe that permaculture has a lot to offer the realm of conflict
> resolution and prevention. I found myself more easily able to cope with
> the
> levantine dynamic by regarding Israel and Palestine as a design challenge
> instead of a conflict defined by subjective feelings of entitlement and a
> bitter cascade of resentiment upon resentiment. And I hope to contribute
> to
> true solutions there one day.
>
> Currently I'm far far away from that world in sunny Kalama, WA. working
> toward a deeper understanding of permaculture's foundation and geneology...
> I'm on that step number 1, long protracted observation and meditation.
>
> Intern status! with Abundance PC.
>
> But conflict resolution and community is where my heart is... So if you've
> got any insight into educational opportunities down that road I'd love to
> explore them. My developing passion is design for the psychological
> systems
> we employ in our relationships to one another, and I'd love to meet a
> permaculture designer who is already developing methodology along these
> lines.
>
> Thanks for asking,
> Dan
>
> On 11 April 2010 11:30, Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
> > danmk wrote:
> >
> > > I am probably much more
> > > dependent on this list for information than you because I am running a
> > kind
> > > of mono-cultural education in ecology and environmental politics right
> > now
> > > through my relationship with permaculture.
> >
> > What kind of project are you working on? Grass roots educational
> > outreach program somewhere?
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:56:23 EDT
> From: LBUZZELL@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Conflict resolution and community
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
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>
> Hi Dan, Lawrence, Mal and all interested in this thread,
>
> I too am passionate about the idea of applying the permaculture principles
> to People Care, including mental health, social health, conflict
> resolution, community building etc. A while ago I started a google group
> called
> "perma-psychology" that anyone can join, and am in communication with
> others
> interested in this topic, like Andy Fisher of Canada, author of "Radical
> Ecopsychology" who will be teaching a two week intensive summer course on
> this
> topic at the University of Vermont this year (see below). I'm currently
> writing an essay on this for an anthology being edited by Craig Chalquist,
> a
> psychology professor at JFK University in the San Francisco Bay area who is
> starting his PDC this weekend. Craig and I edited an anthology called
> "Ecotherapy: Healing with Nature in Mind" for Sierra Club Books last year.
>
> I'd love to hear from anyone else interested in this topic.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Linda Buzzell
> lbuzzell @ aol . com (remove spaces)
> _www.ecotherapyheals.com_ (http://www.ecotherapyheals.com)
>
>
> Andy Fisher is teaching a two week ecopsychology intensive in June 2010.
> It is a full credit Environmental Studies course, run through Continuing
> Ed. For more info, go to the University of Vermont website and click on
> "Summer University," where you?ll find details. The course is ENVS 195 Z4.
>
>
> In a message dated 4/12/2010 8:18:25 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> planetman@optushome.com.au writes:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Great area to be passionate about, Care of People is about much more than
> the traditional nutrition and housing etc. (zones 0-5). For us to reach
> our
> true permacultural potential as individuals and as a society we also need
> to
> focus on the psychological and spiritual aspects of our lives and that of
> our children (sometimes referred to as zone 00).
> It is whilst contemplating the parenting of my own children that I came
> across a book which I recommend to anyone interested in the topic.
>
> "Parenting for a Peaceful World" by Robin Grille 2005 Longueville Media -
> http://www.our-emotional-health.com/book-peacefulWorld.html .
>
> Robin explains the relationship between childhood experiences and adult
> attitudes. He takes us through an account of the parenting techniques of
> the
> last several thousand years and their influence over some of the more
> nasty
> and unpleasant periods in history. He then shows us the positive evolution
> that is taking place in parenting style that will lift our species out of
> violence and conflict and towards the world we in permaculture are
> working
> toward.
>
> Regards,
> Mal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of danmk
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:29 AM
> To: permaculture
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Fw: Chemtrails
>
> >
> > Lawrence F. London, Jr. <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Grass roots educational
> > outreach program somewhere?
> >
>
> Nothing so entrepreneurial, yet.. I meant to refer to the way I am
> administering my own education.
>
> I'm still working on integrating the design principles with how I interact
> with and view the my world. I have been spending a lot of time traveling.
> Last year I was fortunate enough to work on a permaculture site in the
> West
> Bank, where I first realized the transformative potential of
> permaculture's
> approach to... anything confusing!
>
> I believe that permaculture has a lot to offer the realm of conflict
> resolution and prevention. I found myself more easily able to cope with
> the
> levantine dynamic by regarding Israel and Palestine as a design challenge
> instead of a conflict defined by subjective feelings of entitlement and a
> bitter cascade of resentiment upon resentiment. And I hope to contribute
> to
> true solutions there one day.
>
> Currently I'm far far away from that world in sunny Kalama, WA. working
> toward a deeper understanding of permaculture's foundation and
> geneology...
> I'm on that step number 1, long protracted observation and meditation.
>
> Intern status! with Abundance PC.
>
> But conflict resolution and community is where my heart is... So if
> you've
> got any insight into educational opportunities down that road I'd love to
> explore them. My developing passion is design for the psychological
> systems
> we employ in our relationships to one another, and I'd love to meet a
> permaculture designer who is already developing methodology along these
> lines.
>
> Thanks for asking,
> Dan
>
> On 11 April 2010 11:30, Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
> > danmk wrote:
> >
> > > I am probably much more
> > > dependent on this list for information than you because I am running a
> > kind
> > > of mono-cultural education in ecology and environmental politics
> right
> > now
> > > through my relationship with permaculture.
> >
> > What kind of project are you working on? Grass roots educational
> > outreach program somewhere?
> > _______________________________________________
> > permaculture mailing list
> > permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subscribe or unsubscribe here:
> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture
> > Google command to search archives:
> > site: https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/permaculture searchstring
> > More information:
> > http://venaurafarm.blogspot.com
> > permaculture forums http://www.permies.com/permaculture-forums
> > And: http://www.richsoil.com
> >
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