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[Keith D Johnson <keithdj@mindspring.com>]

Whether Prez Bill believes it or not the sentiment is noble. Although he has 
failed, it's up to us to realize it by practicing win / win design solutions.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Stephen Sherman <spsherm@msn.com>
>Sent: Mar 3, 2010 10:00 PM
>To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Re: [permaculture] Huh!
>
>Nice happy talk from the old Pres; maybe he even believes it. However 
>history has proven this sales pitch to be nothing more than a load of 
>rubbish.
>
>The end results of NAFTA, free trade with China, and all the other scams 
>which were sold on lines and promises like these, have ended up quite 
>differently. The US and the West has given up their manufacturing jobs 
>and expertise so that large corporations can pocket the wage differences 
>between home and third world work forces. Workers on both sides have 
>seen increased unemployment and declining standards of living. The West 
>when the manufacturing jobs first left. And more recently those workers 
>who first got the jobs as manufacturing moves yet again to cheaper labor 
>markets.
>
>These policies have been a disaster for all. It will take decades to 
>repair the damage done.
>
>
>On 3/3/2010 6:33 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:
>> /"The more complex societies get and the more complex the networks of
>> interdependence within and beyond community and national borders get,
>> the more people are forced in their own interests to find non-zero-sum
>> solutions. That is, win--win solutions instead of win--lose
>> solutions.... Because we find as our interdependence increases that, on
>> the whole, we do better when other people do better as well --- so we
>> have to find ways that we can all win, we have to accommodate each
>> other...."
>>
>> found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-sum
>> quoting.....Bill Clinton
>> ...........................................................................................................
>> /"The best defense against hard times is a well-fed neighbor."
>> <http://www.wellfedneighbor.com/>
>> 462 members
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>>    
>
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