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  • From: Tripp Tibbetts <slowfoodguy@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Jethro Tull
  • Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:12:38 -0800 (PST)

Rain, thanks for the clarification.  I was recalling the story from memory,
as the book with that information was already out on loan to a future permie.
 
Tripp



The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow.
-Chinese proverb
 

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Rain Tenaqiya <raincascadia@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Rain Tenaqiya <raincascadia@yahoo.com>
Subject: [permaculture] Jethro Tull
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 10:59 PM


Tull did not invent the plow, he only modified it.  He would have liked rock
dust.  Here's the Wikipedia entry:
 
Jethro Tull improved the seed drill, a device for sowing seeds effectively.
At the time his workers did not like the idea because they thought they were
going to lose their jobs.
Tull also advocated the use of horses instead of oxen and invented a
horse-drawn Hoe for clearing weeds, and made changes to the design of the
plough which are still visible in modern versions. His interest in ploughing
derived from his interest in weed control, and his belief that fertilizer was
unnecessary, on the basis that nutrients locked up in soil could be released
through pulverization. Although he was incorrect in his belief that plants
obtained nourishment exclusively from such nutrients, he was aware that horse
manure carried weed seeds, and hoped to avoid using it as fertilizer by
pulverizing the soil to enhance the availability of plant nutrients.
Tull's inventions were sometimes considered controversial and were not widely
adopted for many years. However, on the whole he introduced innovations which
contributed to the foundation of productive modern agriculture.
Tull tried to persuade European farmers to adopt what he called "horse-hoeing
husbandry", which involved growing crops in rows and hoeing them thoroughly.
Although the Chinese used this technique by at least the 6th century BC, this
was not widely practiced in Europe until the 18th century, and he was the
major contributor in this conversion.
Tull died at Prosperous Farm at Hungerford and is buried in the graveyard of
St Bartholomew's Church, Lower Basildon, both in Berkshire.


     
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I'm curious how many other folks on the list would be up to putting
content in the wiki? A wiki is one of the best examples of a
permaculture garden in the digital world and people's contribution
easily get compounded as people interact with the information.

A wiki is a social environment so it isn't well suited to only a
couple people saturating it with a specific viewpoint (& personally
wouldn't be that interesting to contribute to). I also put a bunch
of work into the previous permaculture wiki installation only to have
it disappear without saving all the data so stability is key.

Hopefully images, pdfs, etc are being loaded to the same server when
possible. It really becomes difficult to maintain integrity if they
are all linked to other sites on the net that may disappear at anytime.

I've worked in wikis for probably 10 years so it's a very comfortable
environment for me. There is a small learning curve but the more
experienced people can easily get some one track. That said, I really
do think this is the way to go. It should also be designed to easily
generate pdfs which can then be distributed electronically or printed
from.

back to racking a batch of rhubarb-ginger wine,


~mIEKAL


On Dec 10, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Robert Waldrop wrote:

> As people find, start, or know about other wikis, a simple thing to do
> would be to add an article about the wiki in the resource section, as
> well as of course establishing links to permaculture.info from their
> own
> websites/blogs, etc.
>
> Bob Waldrop, Okie City
> www.energyconservationinfo.org
>
>
> Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:
>> grifenhope@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> How can we integrate The caordic Institute wiki with all The other
>>> PC wikis and earth Action mentor etc?
>>>
>>
>> One way is to extensively embed links to all those other wikis from
>> ours, external links just like ones going anywhere else, just like
>> the
>> Wikipedia. That's the simple way. The Semantic Web offers a different
>> way of integrating related individual web resources. A quick and
>> useful
>> for doing this is through the use of collections of Google Custom
>> Search
>> Engines, and this is a great tool.
>>
>> LL




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