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Eugenio Gras of COAS in Jalisco, Mexico has written what seems to be
(looked at it quickly in his computer) a very good book on permaculture
design in Spanish. It is supposed to be printed this month, and costs $200
pesos ($15 US?) for 200 plus pages. It, of course, is not the PDM, and
don't know if it goes into wet, humid, lowlands much.

My computer is ill so I don't have Eugenio's address on me, but you might
try COAS' general email address. Eugenio's English is excellent. 

I will certainly buy the book, and expect it will have high demand here -
it is much better than what was translated of Mollison- the translation was
quite poor and difficult to follow.

good luck,
George Anna
Morelos, Mexico


On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:03:53 -0800, <ktho@comcast.net> wrote:
> Christopher:
> 
> I'm happy to buy a manual for him. Am writing Tagari now to try to get a
> Spanish language edition for him. Will copy you on that e-mail so you'll
> have mine. Then we can get one mailed out to him. :)
> 
> Best Regards & Hugs Back Atcha,
> 
> Kathleen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of christopher
> nesbitt
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:04 PM
> To: permaculture
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Information monopoly
> 
> Kathleen,
> 
> Thank you. I have been following this reluctantly, and feel the same
> way you do. I love what you wrote earlier, and this should help this
> topic, which has consumed so much energy, die down. I agree that the
> DM is Bills work, and if he wants to sell it, give it away, donate it,
> publish it, etc, that is his to do as he sees fit. He worked very hard
> to make it, and we should honor his work by not stealing it. If he
> should allow it to be shared freely, then that is his to make that
> decision with.
> 
> I do know someone who could use that book. He does great work in
> Guatemala. He speaks only the eensiest bit of English, is Kekchi Maya,
> and speaks Spanish as a second language. He took a PDC last year, and
> is one of the people we are hoping to work with on a Kekchi Maya
> language PDC that targets communities on both sides of the Belize/
> Guatemala border and focuses on design strategies that are relevant to
> our lowland wet humid environment. If you can't find someone else with
> better English language skills and as much need, let me know, and I
> will get you their mailing address. If you find someone else, instead,
> that is great, too.
> 
> Insert thumbs up here.
> 
> Warm regards, big hug,
> 
> Christopher
> 
> _____________________________
> Christopher Nesbitt
> 
> Maya Mountain Research Farm
> San Pedro Columbia, Toledo
> PO 153 Punta Gorda Town, Toledo
> BELIZE,
> Central America
> 
> www.mmrfbz.org
> 
> On Nov 15, 2009, at 2:16 PM, <ktho@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Listen all you excuse makers. If you really believe so much in the
>> free distribution of the DM then put your money where your  mouths
>> are and *buy* the bloody copies from Mollison and distribute them as
>> gifts. Put up or shut up.
>>
>> If you really believe the DM needs updating, put up your *own* money
>> and offer to help Mollison fund the re-printing of an updated
>> version. Put up or shut up.
>>
>> Don't have the scratch? Then hold some fund-raisers, write some
>> grants, get up an on-line porn shop, whatever it takes. Go to *work*
>> and get the cash you need for the project. Put up - or shut up.
>>
>> Since I believe in Leadership By Example, if someone can give me the
>> name and mailing address of someone who needs the  manual and can't
>> afford it, I'll pay for it myself and have it sent to them.
>>
>> Now, who is going to help me bake this bread?
>>
>> Put up or shut up.
>>
>> Kathleen
>>
>>
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> 
> 
> 
> _____________________________
> Christopher Nesbitt
> 
> Maya Mountain Research Farm
> San Pedro Columbia, Toledo
> PO 153 Punta Gorda Town, Toledo
> BELIZE,
> Central America
> 
> www.mmrfbz.org
> 
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