permaculture

[lbsaltzman@aol.com]

For those who would steal Bill Mollison's work my thought is how about some 
gratitude for what he and David Holmgren created, instead of belligerence 
that you have to pay for the book and can't have it for free. 


-----Original Message-----
From: ktho@comcast.net
To: 'permaculture' <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>; 'Tagari Publications' 
<dtp@tagari.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 11:06 am
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Copyright Infringement on PERMACULTURE: A 
Designers' Manual



Evan:
This is bullshit rationalization and crass appeal to commercialization as an
xcuse for you to continue to have entitlement issues and force Tagari to
ppease them. It is not your place to decide for any author, nor for all the
ermie world, that it is okay to pirate copyrighted works. Mind your place. 
You are a pirate and I will do everything I can do to help Tagari sue you
ntil your eyeballs bleed.
How bloody goddamned dare you attempt to hijack an author's work so you can
et political street cred in the permie world?
Kathleen

----Original Message-----
rom: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Evan Schoepke
ent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:10 AM
o: Tagari Publications
ubject: Re: [permaculture] Copyright Infringement on PERMACULTURE: A
esigners' Manual
Dear Tagari,
On behalf Punk Rock Permaculture thank you for quickly replying to my
etter.  I agree that Bill, Tagari, and the entire Permaculture Institute
eed and deserve as much revenue and funding as possible.  I also thank
agari for all the desperately needed work it's doing to make
ermaculture accessible to the developing world and many low income folks.
It is exactly because of my desire to see a fruitful and prosperous
ermaculture network and thus a fruitful and prosperous Tagari that I
whole-heartedly
isagree completely* and respectfully in regards to your previous letter.  I
eel Tagari would sell many more books once the manual could be made
asily accessible in many languages.  I can see that Tagari is in a position
o keep to business as usual.  Unfortunately, (and perhaps fortunately) the
orld is not!  Please see this video of famed blogger, and post scarcity
uru,  Cory Doctorow on why being open pays.  I will continue to work and
dvocate for the release (or re-release) of the designers manual onto the
et simply because I also ardently believe in earth care, people care, and
air share and I know permaculture is set of ideas whose time has come.
Sometimes progress looks punk...
http://punkrockpermaculture.com/2008/10/22/mexico-city-permaculture-punks/>
P.S. I look forward to reading Ferment and Human Nutrition at a affordable
rice, again thank you very much and keep up the awesome work.
Cory Doctorow being introduced by the founder of Ibiblio which hosts the
nternational permaculture network list serve..
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBX-981_es
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