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Re: [permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas"
- From: Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas"
- Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:28:48 -0700
Thomas Paul Jahn wrote:
Sorry, but in my eyes this is not permaculture at all. As long as he wants us make believe that we will be driving our cars and lorries on alcohol in substitution for oil this is insane.It doesn't sound like you've read the book, as he is generally not advocating large scale use, and suggests that we won't continue to drive cars en masse much longer. The book is primarily about on-farm and small-scale ethanol production for very specific uses.
Dave sometimes overstates his case and uses more best-case numbers than I like, but he definitely knows his stuff when it comes to ethanol. I don't think he sees it as "the" solution, just part of a multi-fold set of solutions. He grasps permaculture pretty well.
Toby
http://patternliteracy.com
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[permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas",
Thomas Paul Jahn, 10/21/2009
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Re: [permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas",
Albert Johnston, 10/21/2009
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Re: [permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas",
trevor william johnson, 10/22/2009
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Re: [permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas",
Gavin Raders, 10/22/2009
- Re: [permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas", christopher nesbitt, 10/22/2009
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- Re: [permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas", Lawrence F. London, Jr., 10/27/2009
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Re: [permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas",
Gavin Raders, 10/22/2009
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Re: [permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas",
trevor william johnson, 10/22/2009
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Re: [permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas",
Albert Johnston, 10/21/2009
- Re: [permaculture] Svar: Re: David Blume and "Alcohol Can Be A Gas", Toby Hemenway, 10/21/2009
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