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[negiliblek <negiliblek@yahoo.com>]

Lisa Rollens

>Hmmm...I didn't know there was a different species of honey locust with
>small pods.  They're not black locust, are they??  Ours down here have 
>>large pods...16-18 inches long.

-could be black locust. I've read that there are many varieties of honey 
locust and that some nurseries create their own hybrid. The locust trees in 
Gallup have pods 8-12 inches long but the seed in the pod is fat, huge 
compared to the 6 inch pod found in Maysville with flat, thin seeds.

the Gallup variety seed (shelled from the mature brown pod), can be boiled in 
two changes of water (to remove tannins), and then boiled like a black or red 
kidney bean (which I've done -got pics if you want). It would only take a 
fist full of brown pods to make a single bowl of beans.
It's clearly not worth my time to use the Maysville variety this way.

>I picked up over 20 feedbags full and have been
>feeding them to my dairy cow all winter.

Did you pick the pods green or brown (mature)? How do the cows like them? Can 
you taste it in their milk? Have you opened the pod to see how thick the seed 
is?

>I have elderberries, serviceberry, chestnut, witch hazel, black >raspberry, 
>and gooseberries under the black walnuts

Nice! I'm not that familiar with the elderberry and the serviceberry (though 
I've read about them an seen non-descript pictures of them). If happen to 
have a spring, summer, fall, and winter picutres of those two plants -I'd 
love to have them since they are supposed to be in Maysville.

And thanks for the info on the locust's sex. I'll try and photo document the 
plantings.




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Wolfram Alpha is Coming -- and It Could be as Important as Google | Twine
http://www.twine.com/item/122mz8lz9-4c/wolfram-alpha-is-coming-and-it-could-be-as-important-as-google
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A Computational Knowledge Engine for the Web

In a nutshell, Wolfram and his team have built what he calls a "computational 
knowledge engine" for the Web. OK, so what
does that really mean? Basically it means that you can ask it factual 
questions and it computes answers for you.

It doesn't simply return documents that (might) contain the answers, like 
Google does, and it isn't just a giant
database of knowledge, like the Wikipedia. It doesn't simply parse natural 
language and then use that to retrieve
documents, like Powerset, for example.

Instead, Wolfram Alpha actually computes the answers to a wide range of 
questions -- like questions that have factual
answers such as "What is the location of Timbuktu?" or "How many protons are 
in a hydrogen atom?," "What was the average
rainfall in Boston last year?," "What is the 307th digit of Pi?," or "what 
would 80/20 vision look like?"

Think about that for a minute. It computes the answers. Wolfram Alpha doesn't 
simply contain huge amounts of manually
entered pairs of questions and answers, nor does it search for answers in a 
database of facts. Instead, it understands
and then computes answers to certain kinds of questions.

(Update: in fact, Wolfram Alpha doesn't merely answer questions, it also 
helps users to explore knowledge, data and
relationships between things. It can even open up new questions -- the 
"answers" it provides include computed data or
facts, plus relevant diagrams, graphs, and links to other related questions 
and sources. It also can be used to ask
questions that are new explorations between relationships, data sets or 
systems of knowledge. It does not just provides
textual answers to questions -- it helps you explore ideas and create new 
knowledge as well)
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