permaculture

[Nancy Frank <oppty@mac.com>]

I'm not sure how many animals, save ones designed in the arctic, can  
take -50 degrees.  I don't think they would likely be up to it.  Here  
in Wisconsin, we get -25, and although they have a thick bed of straw  
to nestle into, and a solid shelter to keep them out of the wind,  
mine usually shiver quite a bit.  I would worry about frostbite,  
particularly to the ears with deep cold like that.

It might be possible if you had very heavily wooled animals and they  
were not shorn.  I'm sure some other llama breeders in Alaska could  
give you better information.  Check out the International Lama  
Association website and see if you can connect with someone up there.

In a normal habitat for llamas, the temperature variability not  
terribly severe.  A wide range may be zero to 80 F.  We challenge  
them here with -20 to 95+.  I keep barns doors closed in the cold,  
and fans on all summer.

Nancy

On Oct 22, 2008, at 10:08 PM, ed sarten wrote:

> can a llama take -50 degrees farenheit?Ed Ruby,Alaska
>
> --- On Wed, 10/22/08, SArjuna@aol.com <SArjuna@aol.com> wrote:
> From: SArjuna@aol.com <SArjuna@aol.com>
> Subject: [permaculture] llamas
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 6:16 PM
>
>      So now I've come to your post about llamas, which I had never
> considered
> having.   Hmmm.   Can llamas be trained to pull a cart or buggy  
> that one
> rides in?    Or just led as pack animals?
>      Shivani
>
> In a message dated 9/23/08 12:22:44 PM,
> permaculture-request@lists.ibiblio.org writes:
> > > In response to your push carts and bicycle carts, I thought about
> > > other animals, like horses.  I know that horses eat far too much to
> > > make them realistic for most, and are not sustainable in the long
> > > run.  But llamas are MUCH more efficient with what they eat, can
> > > carry more per pound of body weight than a horse (a horse weighing
> > > 1,000 pounds will carry about 210 pounds, llamas weighing 300 pounds
> > > will carry about 50-75 pounds).  They also keep brush down, as
> > > browsers rather than only grass grazers, provide delightful wool for
> > > spinning, knitting and weaving warm winter outerwear and sweaters,
> > > and are friendly as companions.  Just a thought.
>
>
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