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  • From: ed sarten <esarten@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] llamas
  • Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:08:06 -0700 (PDT)

can a llama take -50 degrees farenheit?Ed Ruby,Alaska

--- On Wed, 10/22/08, SArjuna@aol.com <SArjuna@aol.com> wrote:
From: SArjuna@aol.com <SArjuna@aol.com>
Subject: [permaculture] llamas
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 6:16 PM

So now I've come to your post about llamas, which I had never
considered
having. Hmmm. Can llamas be trained to pull a cart or buggy that one
rides in? Or just led as pack animals?
Shivani

In a message dated 9/23/08 12:22:44 PM,
permaculture-request@lists.ibiblio.org writes:
>
> > In response to your push carts and bicycle carts, I thought about
> > other animals, like horses.  I know that horses eat far too much to
> > make them realistic for most, and are not sustainable in the long
> > run.  But llamas are MUCH more efficient with what they eat, can
> > carry more per pound of body weight than a horse (a horse weighing
> > 1,000 pounds will carry about 210 pounds, llamas weighing 300 pounds
> > will carry about 50-75 pounds).  They also keep brush down, as
> > browsers rather than only grass grazers, provide delightful wool for
> > spinning, knitting and weaving warm winter outerwear and sweaters,
> > and are friendly as companions.  Just a thought.
> >
>




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Subject: [permaculture] Quassia for amoebic dysentery,
giardia and worms? - Boing Boing
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Quassia for amoebic dysentery, giardia and worms? - Boing Boing
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Quassia for amoebic dysentery, giardia and worms?
Posted by Mark Frauenfelder, October 22, 2008 4:01 PM | permalink
200810221601

Evan Ravitz has a knoll about curing parasitical infections naturally with
Quassia, which contains the "phytochemical
quassin, the bitterest substance found in nature."

People traveling in 3rd world countries are often afraid of intestinal
parasites, but, having lived for 3 years in
poorer areas of Mexico and 2 in Guatemala, I learned there are easy
solutions. I picked up amoebic dysentery several
times while on long bicycle trips, and knowing how to deal with them, I was
able to continue with no problems. This
method is for healthy people only!

Here's how I do it: If my gut hurts, I wait two days. If it's just a
bacterial infection, you should start to feel
better. Coconut milk is very soothing. Definitely avoid alcohol and sweets,
which bacteria and other parasites love.

If after 2 days, you feel as bad or worse, you should start treatment
with a “full-spectrum antibiotic” -or the
herb Quassia, which is used in much the same way -especially if there is
mucus in your feces and sulphur in the gas you
pass.In most of Latin America, just go to a Pharmacia and ask for Flagyl (or
the generic Metronidazole), the cheap drug
available everywhere or say “tengo amebas” (“I have amoebas”) and they'll
almost certainly give you Flagyl. In the U.S.
you need a prescription, so DON'T WAIT until you return or you'll have to pay
for expensive tests to get treatment
-while the amoebas are eating your lunch, dinner and breakfast and you are
getting weaker.

Quassia won't make you feel as bad as Flagyl, but neither is fun. Both
are killing everything in your gut, so you
need to replenish the beneficial bacteria with probiotics, like yoghurt,
kefir, sauerkraut, miso, etc., after the treatment.

Often people with amoebas will wait longer until they're really sick and
go to a doctor for a stool test. If they
don't find the amoebas with a microscope the first time, and you wait longer,
it will take weeks or more to recover your
strength after you take the treatment. That's why I assume I have them if I
don't feel better in 2 days. Neither
treatment is pleasant, but you'll function fine, which is nearly impossible
with amoebas.

Quassia is available at herb and health food shops. It will be either
shredded or chopped. Take a large handful on
your trip, which should cost a few bucks.

How to cure amoebic dysentery, giardia and worms with Quassia
http://knol.google.com/k/evan-ravitz/cure-parasites-naturally/3cmgruezxadws/2#




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