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["John & Maia O'Brien" <johnandmaia@gmail.com>]

About yellow jackets: There are effective non-toxic attractant traps. You
can make one out of an empty pop bottle, bait it with some meat which will
rot and attract the yellow jackets. . Critters get in can't get out. The
quick & dirt way to get rid of 'em is chickens, which will eat 'em up.
Google "integrated pest management." 

Paul Stamets is awesome, brilliant but I doubt his carpenter ant product
would work for yellow jackets.  

John O'Brien
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Douglas Casimel
Date: 10/17/2008 11:27:38 AM
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [permaculture] yellow jackets (kenny swain): permaculture
Digest, Vol 69, Issue 17
 
Dear Kenny Swain,
 
 
Here is a video of Paul Stamets who has invented a fungi method to stop
carpenter ants...this may also work for yellow jackets.
 
http://www.ted.org/index
php/talks/paul_stamets_on_6_ways_mushrooms_can_save_the_world.html
 
 
Paul's company's website: http://www.fungi.com/
 
 
The simpliest solution is the Wasp Ruse:
 
http://www.davidsuzuki.org/files/NC/newsletter/GreenGarden2.pdf
 
 
Food for thought,
 
Doug Casimel
 
 
 
 
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> Robert McFalls documentary HOMEGROWN (www.homegrown-film.com) will be
shown
> on Nov 3 at New York City?s Lincoln Center as part of their Green Screens
> series & Nov 16th at the St Louis International Film Festival
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> A Documentary About Modern Day Urban Homesteaders
>
> HOMEGROWN (2008) follows the Dervaes family who run a small organic farm
in
> the heart of urban Pasadena, California. While ?living off the grid?, they
> harvest over 6,000 pounds of produce on less than a quarter of an acre,
make
> their own bio diesel, power their computers with the help of solar panels,
> and maintain a website that gets 4,000 hits a day. The film is an intimate
> human portrait of what it?s like to live like ?Little House on the
Prairie?
> in the 21st Century.
>
> Director?s Statement
>
> Many people are becoming aware of the environment. We may have gone to see
> ?An Inconvenient Truth?, changed our light bulbs, or started to recycle
> more. But how many of us are really walking the walk? I know I?m not.
>
> When I heard about the Dervaes family, I sensed that there was a human
story
> behind the headlines about global warming or buying organic produce. I
> wanted to find out what it takes to live the life of an environmental
> pioneer. I don?t wish to simply glorify or romanticize their way of life,
> however. I want to show that along with the positive benefits there are
also
> sacrifices. Truly living by your ideals can have costs. I believe that
> recognizing the hardships the Dervaes have faced makes their work all the
> more inspiring.
>
> HOMEGROWN is ultimately a family story. It?s about what lead them to where
> they are today, what changed them and what keeps them together. Perhaps by
> learning of their journey to a sustainable life style, we might be
inspired
> to take our own first steps.
>
> About Robert McFalls
>
> Early in his career he was an associate editor on ?American Dream?, the
> Barbara Kopple documentary, which won the Academy Award in 1990. That
> experience helped him to see what a broad reach a well-crafted documentary
> could have. He recently edited a documentary feature on the Dalai Lama,
> which is now screening at festivals around the world.
>
> Music
>
> The beautiful music for this documentary was performed by our great
American
> homegrown musicians Jay Unger & Molly Mason.
>
> Jay Ungar and Molly Mason are best known for their haunting composition
> Ashokan Farewell in Ken Burns? hit PBS series ?The Civil War?. The
> soundtrack won a Grammy and Ashokan Farewell was nominated for an Emmy.
> They?ve garnered legions of fans through their appearances on ?Great
> Performances?, ?A Prairie Home Companion?, their own public radio specials

> and work on film soundtracks such as ?Brother?s Keeper?, ?Legends of the
> Fall?, and a host of Ken Burns documentaries.
>
> About the Family
>
> The Dervaes Family (Jules, Ana?s, Justin & Jordanne)
>
> Since the mid 1980s, Jules Dervaes and his family have steadily worked at
> transforming an ordinary residential lot in Pasadena, California into a
> verdant oasis in the midst of the city. On their small fifth of an acre
they
> are striving to be a self-sustaining urban homestead complete with bio
> diesel power, solar energy, and wastewater management. These eco-pioneers
> grow much of their own food and raise a menagerie of chickens, ducks,
goats,
> and an occasional cat. They have been the subject of numerous articles in
> newspapers around the country, including The New York Times, The Los
Angeles
> Times and were recently featured on ABC?s Nightline. You can learn more
> about them at their website: www.pathtofreedom.com
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> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:07:41 -0700 (PDT)
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> Does anyone know of a non chemical way of getting rid of yellow jackets??
I'd like to find a way of just discouraging them from inhabiting their
current nest; but if not, a non toxic extermination method.
> Thanks
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Can I eat the seeds of the paw paws now that the fruit stage has gone
by (which I missed..) I am able to pick up some of the dried up pods
with seeds. Are they ok to eat?

Paul K..southern Illinois