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  • From: Claudia Joseph <permie@earthlink.net>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] 9-day PDC???
  • Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 09:10:07 -0400

HI Rafter and others,
This is a fun question that I have been looking at for a while.
The qualitative experience of a PDC varies widely.

I teach a 9 unit course titled "Urban Permaculture". The total course time is 90 hours. Students must atten every session to gain a certificate.
It covers the basics of regular permaculture without the emphasis on natural building and big land moving projects.
We are working on a type one error in NYC so I am going with the destroyed field that is here.
Rafter, I am wondering if this is the course to which you are referring.

Last year I pointed my finger at other courses I thought weren't up to the task of getting the message of permaculture transferred fully.
I am extremely interested in the process of defining course material, ethical content and the thrust of our permaculture knowledge base.

I have concluded that these elements are highly personal and perhaps are beyond our judgement.
There are reasons for the intensity I insist on in my own PDC. This seems best to simulate the 14 day experience while still allowing busy New Yorkers to continue their jobs and lives. I decided that the message has to go out NOW. I wasn't in that place, but others convinced me that this is really a critical time to move on earth repair. Why not at the epicenter of the destruction?

Teachers are always coming in from elsewhere. What would you expect? I prefer to work locally but that isn't the only model Bill Mollison gave us.

I am ready for a really long conversation off-list (or on) or give me a call, please.

Thanks for bringing this up.
I think some standards are a good idea. I don't know if that is really in the nature of permaculture.

Claudia Joseph
Brooklyn, NY
(718) 369-1139
www.permaculture-exchange.org

On May 2, 2008, at 8:30 PM, rafter t. sass wrote:
So...

What do we do, as a community, when people are teaching a 9-day
permaculture course, and billing it as Permaculture Design
Certificate course?

This is something we are facing in our region, the northeastern US,
right now. Teachers are coming in from elsewhere in the US, which
makes it trickier - no regional community pressure and accountability.

Any ideas?

Best,
rafter




rafter t. sass
The Liberation Ecology Project
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skype: raughter




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