permaculture

["Scott Pittman" <scott@permaculture.org>]

While not directing my comments to any particular site, I appreciate your
comments.

I recently started the development of a large property in Thailand that is
monocropped Lychee.  I am using those trees to provide the finanacing,
shade, mulch, humidity, and soil protection  for evolving a food forest out
of the mono-forest.  I always tell clients to never remove anything, even
weeds, until you have figured out what to replace them with.

Scott Pittman
Director
Permaculture Institute
www.permaculture.org

-----Original Message-----
From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Nick Ritar
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:05 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Two schools of permaculture?

There are also people who have moved onto conventionally developed
properties that are converting them over to the permaculture way.

We are currently running our first PDC with Darren Doherty as our guest
teacher.  We are developing our property as a demonstration site for
permaculture techniques, but the place was terribly degraded by overgrazing
and already has 2000 olive trees planted as a monoculture.

http://www.milkwoodpermaculture.com.au
http://www.milkwood.net

I'm not sure if we are the education centre mentioned above but we might as
well be,  we even have an image on our site which could be the one mentioned
above. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cicada/211354860/in/set-1367910/

Should we have bulldozed those olives before offering our first course?

I suppose we are wanna be's.....  our farm isn't a perfect example of a
fully evolved permaculture system, but we want it to be.

Nick




On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Scott Pittman <scott@permaculture.org>
wrote:

> This is always "How it is" Shivana in permaculture and in every other
> endeavor. There are always those out there who are trying to capitalize on
> a
> good thing, or those whose alligator mouth overwhelms their coon dog ass,
> if
> you know what I mean.
>
> But let me assure you there is only one school of permaculture but there
> is
> always, of course, the wanna be school.
>
> Scott Pittman
> Director
> Permaculture Institute
> www.permaculture.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
> SArjuna@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:40 AM
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [permaculture] Two schools of permaculture?
>
>    I've been reading Jacke's Edible Forest Gardens.   The copying of the
> way
> Nature does things by mingling many different trees, shrubs,perennials and
> groundcovers seems a wise way to go.
>    However, I see that many people who call themselves and their projects
> permaculture are still doing monoculture.   For instance, the other day I
> came
> across the URL for a what was described as a model permaculture farm and
> teaching center in Australia, to find when I looked at the arial map on
> their
> website that they have big blocks of trees in rows, each block of a
> different
> species.
>    What's up?   Are there folks who think that as long as you're not
> tilling
> that's permaculture, even if you have monoculture, and then others who
> think
>
> that monoculture is not permaculture?
>     We are creating a permaculture farm community, and want to get advice
> from a permaculture expert.   But it seems that we'll have to find out
> which
>
> subschool each expert follows.   Is this how it is?
>     Shivani in WI
>
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