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  • From: lbsaltzman@aol.com
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] carbon sequestration
  • Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:06:56 -0500

I don't know if you meant this figuratively or actually, but I don't like
seeing a suggestion that people be killed or physically assaualted, and
buildings blown up.? It is in extremely bad taste and reflects poorly on
Permaculture and its' principles..?


-----Original Message-----
From: J. Kolenovsky <garden@hal-pc.org>
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 9:36 am
Subject: [permaculture] carbon sequestration



We are going to need a massive underground, subversive army (and I mean
massive) that will physically stop, maim or kill all contractors and
real estate developers. Next would be the rich and wealthy investors. I
don't know what to do with them but something would be done. Destruction
of some established structures might be good but they might be needed
for various events like nuclear detonation, comets and meteor showers,
acid rain, etc. One thing that could be done that would make a
difference would be to decrease world population. Maybe weather will
play a largely significant role in this. Lack of food would help too.
Maybe certain males could be required to have vasectomies.

I don't know what any solutions there are but if there are any DVD movie
producers out there, please produce for us a movie of what those times
will be like in the future, get funding for it and get support to
distribute the movie worldwide. It may get some's attention, it may
scare some or it may force some to do nothing while we all go
underground and re-form our survival huddles. Guarantee you something
needs to happen or something will happen.



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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:46:43 -0500
From: lbsaltzman@aol.com
Subject: Re: [permaculture] carbon sequestration
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
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Priority One by Yeomans has some calculations included in the book.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen O'Brien Blair <ktho@comcast.net>
To: 'permaculture' <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:43 pm
Subject: [permaculture] carbon sequestration




Has anyone done the calculations to figure out how much un-built-upon
green surface we need to re-absorb all the carbon we've flung up out of
the bowels of the Underworld? And what kind of surface works best?
(forest, grasslands, crop-lands etc.?)

I just don't see stopping this planetary warming trend - I think we're
going to have to improvise, adapt, and overcome until the planet can do
Her clean-up-the-carbon housekeeping. But She's gonna need lots of
un-built-on surface to do that. The built environment is incapable of
sequestering carbon at the rate it needs to be sequestered.

Bottom line- if we don't stop the "growth & development & progress"
mafia - we're toast. We can't afford any more new built environment on
un-built-upon ground. Any.

Kathleen

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