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["Christoph Redwitz" <Latuerlich@gmx.de>]

How do you run the reed beds now?
With using the reeds i meant, if you can use the plant outcome or if its just 
purification. I think you can use phragmites as mulch and maybe constucting 
material (roofs maybe)?




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> Datum: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:59:05 +1100
> Von: Robyn Francis <erda@nor.com.au>
> An: permaculture <permaculture@eslists.ibiblio.org>
> Betreff: Re: [permaculture] reed beds

> 
> I have reed bed systems here in sub-tropic Australia. Yes, we do have
> water
> loss through evapo-transpiration which varies with the seasons, depending
> on
> temperature and weather. When it's very hot and dry the reeds tend to use
> most of the waste water and there's little comes out the other end, but
> most
> of the year there is some water coming through for re-use.
> 
> There are a lot of rushes and sedges suitable for purification. Phragmites
> spp tend to have aggressive root systems which grow into pipes and block
> them, so while one if the best performers re treatment, they create a lot
> of
> maintenance. The prefered species here are Juncus, Scirpus and Typha. I
> also
> have a greywater reed bed planted with Cyerus papyrus (which looks
> stunning)
> and Yellow Flag Iris.
> What did you mean by using the reeds properly?
> 
> Ciao
> Robyn
> 
> 
> On 8/2/08 1:00 AM, "Christoph Redwitz" <latuerlich@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> > It not yet a concret plan. It's more a dream: moving to a warmer place.
> > Evapotranspiration is here in Germany no problem. The reed beds a
> > working very well. But i in hot climat, one says: reed beds are a good
> > option, because you can recycle your greywater in that way, and other
> > say, you can use reed beds but u wont get water back. But actually i
> > have these statements out of literatur. Thats why i am asking now here
> :)
> > 
> > 
> > Lawrence F. London, Jr. schrieb:
> >> Christoph Redwitz wrote:
> >> 
> >>   
> >>> Hi!
> >>> Does anybody have some experience with read bed purification in dry
> >>> areas? I'v read about it, that it is not practical there, because of
> the
> >>> high evapotranspiration loss of water. But on the other hand i heard
> of
> >>> many people that they use it. Do you get water back from that system?
> >>> And can you use the reed propperly?
> >>> Are there more effectiv plants to use on that kind of pourification?
> >>>     
> >> 
> >> Reedbed greywater purification systems are widely used in the UK.
> >> Is evapotranspiration a problem unique to using reeds in beds?
> >> If so maybe erecting some kind of greenhouse over the bed would reduce
> that
> >> water loss
> >> and infuse the system with clean condensed water from the inside
> surfaces of
> >> the greenhouse.
> >> Left partly open in hot weather for ventilation and closed in cold this
> >> structure could
> >> be left in place year round. Where are you thinking of using this
> system?
> >> Europe?
> >> 
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