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  • From: Raymond Cirirno <permaquest@yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] The Urban Permaculture setting with fun and art
  • Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:16:20 -0800 (PST)

Dear Keith,
Yes to all of the above. Just lead the way.
THANK YOU LOTS,
RAY

Keith Johnson <keithdj@mindspring.com> wrote: Wow, Ray! You've been busy!
Would you PLEASE write an article on rocket
stoves for the Activist? This is good stuff. I love the cob hybrid
rocket stoves / ovens. You could follow it up with another story on
treehouses.
Keith

Raymond Cirirno wrote:
> Dear All,
> Permaculture in LA is very rare to find, until now. We have just occupied
> and acre of land in Venice,CA where we plan to create a model unlike the
> models of the past spaces. This time we're adding fun,style,sexy and
> imagination. This formula is what the general public want. All the
> principles will apply and even some new ones. We don't have time to hope
> anymore, but take a leap without looking back. We are looking for a few
> people that would like to be living and playing with us in this media
> circus that will only promote what we all would love to see come true.
> . Please feel free to call: 818-834-7074
>
> Some of the fun we'll have. http://people.tribe.net/raycirino/photos
>
> Sincerely,
> Ray
>
--
Keith Johnson
"Be fruitful and mulch apply."
Permaculture Activist Magazine
PO Box 5516, Bloomington, IN 47407
(812) 335-0383
http://www.permacultureactivist.net
http://www.PermacultureTradingPost.com
Switch to Solar Power the Easy Way
http://www.jointhesolution.com/KeithJ-SunPower
http://www.PowUr.com/KeithJ-SunPower
Blog: http://kjpermaculture.blogspot.com/
also Patterns for Abundance Design & Consulting
http://www.permacultureactivist.net/design/Designconsult.html
also Association for Regenerative Culture
http://www.ARCulture.org
also APPLE-Bloomington (Alliance for a Post-Petroleum Local Economy) It's a
small world after oil.
http://www.relocalize.net/groups/applebloomington
also Bloomington Permaculture Guild
http://my.calendars.net/bloomingtonpccal/
and: http://bloomingtonpermacultureguild.blogspot.com/
also: Bioregional Congress
http://www.bioregional-congress.org

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Dear David,
I have many things I've built for then the last 5 years including the oven
and that tomato cage I'm under. They are great friends.
Ray

David Glober <david.glober@gmail.com> wrote: Ray:

Are you familiar with the Dervaes family "urban homestead: in Pasadena?
They're farming, living self-sufficiently, raising chickens, selling produce
to restaurants, and were recently featured on ABC 7 News. Pasadena, CA and
Venice, CA seem like different worlds, but you're neighbors more or less...:
http://www.pathtofreedom.com/

Here's a page on their site about Permaculture:
http://www.pathtofreedom.com/pathproject/gardening/permaculture.shtml

Their calendar - events page:
http://pathtofreedom.com/calendar/

They also sell systems:
http://pathtofreedom.com/peddlerswagon/

~ David Glober, Permie Student, SF, CA


On Jan 16, 2008 7:35 PM, Raymond Cirirno
wrote:

> Dear All,
> Permaculture in LA is very rare to find, until now. We have just occupied
> and acre of land in Venice,CA where we plan to create a model unlike the
> models of the past spaces. This time we're adding fun,style,sexy and
> imagination. This formula is what the general public want. All the
> principles will apply and even some new ones. We don't have time to hope
> anymore, but take a leap without looking back. We are looking for a few
> people that would like to be living and playing with us in this media circus
> that will only promote what we all would love to see come true.
> . Please feel free to call: 818-834-7074
>
> Some of the fun we'll have. http://people.tribe.net/raycirino/photos
>
> Sincerely,
> Ray
>
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Subject: [permaculture] Question about salt in my compost,
salt in the ecosystem
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I am having a hard time understanding salt. I have been avoiding putting
food scraps with any salt into the compost, but it seems that some of the
best soil amendments, such as seaweed and bloodmeal, are fairly salty.

Beyond my question of "how much salt can my compost handle", I want to
understand how sodium moves in an ecosystem, since animals need to
accumulate it but plants need to avoid it.

I've heard that organic soils can buffer sodium from the plants, I would be
interested to learn more on how that works, since plants need potassium
which is chemically similar to sodium.

I'm using the word "salt" in the sense of table salt; I know that the sodium
and chlorine dissociate and have different effects. I also get that "salt"
can refer to any anion + cation.

I am in the southeastern US (Raleigh, NC). Saline soils aren't a big
problem here, but drought certainly can be.

Thanks for all the help, thanks for sharing the knowedge!




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