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- From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@intrex.net>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch
- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:34:27 -0400
Toby Hemenway wrote:
I'm having a hard time figuring out a mechanism for nitrogen to be drawn up more than a couple of millimeters, then across an interface, and into a fresh mulch layer. Rain and gravity will carry N downward. Volatilization might cause nitrogenous gases to rise, but mulch won't have any effect on that. If anything, a mulch layer would slow that down by keeping the soil cool. Movement of N upward seems to require an organism that gets its N in the soil, takes it upward into the mulch, and then eats the mulch carbon to balance the nitrogen, or vice versa. What would move more than a couple of mm? Bacteria won't move that far. Fungal hyphae can transport nutrients, but it would be unusual to have a fungus with intact mycelial strands that cross the interface, from nicely decomposed earth into rough woody mulch. Insects or worms? Maybe, but it seems weird. If someone knows of a mechanism, I stand eager to be enlightened.
I think the usual scenario is when someone tries to rototill significant
qualtities of fewsh sawdust
or wood chips directly into the top layer os garden soil. Then plants will have a hard time getting established in this soil mix. If you add manure or some other source of nitrogen then the problem will be lessened but that is not the way to enrich soil; better to mix the sawdust or hay with manure and add rock dusts then put this as mulch on garden surface and pland within or better yet prepare the planting zone by planting a cover crop in this mix, clover or vetch.
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Lawrence F. London, Jr.
lflj@intrex.net
Venaura Farm http://venaurafarm.blogspot.com
Agriculture, Market Farming & Permaculture
http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech
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[permaculture] N-starvation and mulch,
sinergyinaction, 10/25/2007
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Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch,
yarrow, 10/25/2007
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Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch,
Paul Cereghino, 10/25/2007
- Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch, sinergyinaction, 10/26/2007
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Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch,
Dieter Brand, 10/26/2007
- Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch, Jay Woods, 10/26/2007
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Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch,
Robyn Francis, 10/26/2007
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Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch,
Toby Hemenway, 10/26/2007
- Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 10/26/2007
- Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch, Keith Johnson, 10/26/2007
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Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch,
Paul Cereghino, 10/27/2007
- Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch, Toby Hemenway, 10/29/2007
- Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch, paul wheaton, 10/31/2007
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Raymond Cirirno, 10/28/2007
- Re: [permaculture] Thailand Community Building Workshop, Scott Pittman, 10/30/2007
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Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch,
Toby Hemenway, 10/26/2007
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[permaculture] from N-starvation to mulch approach,
Paul Cereghino, 10/27/2007
- Re: [permaculture] from N-starvation to mulch approach, Dieter Brand, 10/27/2007
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Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch,
Paul Cereghino, 10/27/2007
- Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch, Dieter Brand, 10/27/2007
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Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch,
Paul Cereghino, 10/25/2007
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Re: [permaculture] N-starvation and mulch,
yarrow, 10/25/2007
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