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- From: Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] mis-sent/PDC integrity
- Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:28:09 -0700
The policy I was taught, and adhere to, is that if circumstances (more than a hangover or oversleeping) force someone to miss one module (1-3 hours of class), we can work out some kind of make-up study. Some modules are very hard to make up, so missing any of it means a fair chunk of knowledge is missing. If someone misses much more than one module, they need to repeat that portion of the course at a later date. I have withheld certificates for skipping multiple classes and for failing to complete the portion of the design project that the person was responsible for. I try to be flexible since I know that life does intervene sometimes, but a PDC makes few demands on participants other than to show up, and do the design project. So if someone can't manage to make that commitment, I don't think they can be too serious about permaculture. Seems to me that Pc has few enough standards, so it makes sense to adhere to the few we've got.
Toby
http://patternliteracy.com
L. Santoyo Designs wrote:
Sean, Claudia et al -
I think that everyone is in agreement about wanting to preserve the integrity of a Permaculture Design Certificate Course. (Of course -a person that misses classes, design work, etc -wouldn't be eligible for a certificate of completion -why would they?)
"Teachers in the region had their own agendas and their own courses competing for students..." "Did people skip days and still get a certificate? "
"...I see this as a flaw in the modular format."
These additional questions, comments and concerns -work to support the need for continuing training, constant contact with a qualified mentor and support the 2 year apprenticeship requirements that are invaluable for maintaining the highest standards and in creating highly experienced Instructors and Designers -everywhere.
As a small example: The first modular courses were taught over 15 years ago! -lot's of the issues raised now are the same issues that, since these first courses, have been addressed and solved in many, many creative ways... (finding that out, in advance, is what a Mentor is for!)
I'm not against reinventing the wheel -but at least the wheel is a good point of departure...
Larry Santoyo
http://www.earthflow.com/
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[permaculture] LAPermaculture: Design Course Series begins October 6/7,
L. Santoyo Designs, 10/01/2007
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Re: [permaculture] LAPermaculture: Design Course Series begins October 6/7,
Claudia Joseph, 10/08/2007
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[permaculture] mis-sent,
Claudia Joseph, 10/09/2007
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Re: [permaculture] mis-sent,
Sean Maley, 10/09/2007
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Re: [permaculture] mis-sent,
Claudia Joseph, 10/10/2007
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Re: [permaculture] mis-sent,
L. Santoyo Designs, 10/10/2007
- Re: [permaculture] mis-sent/PDC integrity, Toby Hemenway, 10/10/2007
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Re: [permaculture] mis-sent,
L. Santoyo Designs, 10/10/2007
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[permaculture] Designer/Teacher Certification Re: mis-sent,
L. Santoyo Designs, 10/10/2007
- Re: [permaculture] Designer/Teacher Certification Re: mis-sent, Graham, 10/10/2007
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[permaculture] Designer/Teacher Certification Re: mis-sent,
L. Santoyo Designs, 10/10/2007
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Re: [permaculture] mis-sent,
Claudia Joseph, 10/10/2007
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Re: [permaculture] mis-sent,
Sean Maley, 10/09/2007
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[permaculture] mis-sent,
Claudia Joseph, 10/09/2007
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Re: [permaculture] LAPermaculture: Design Course Series begins October 6/7,
Claudia Joseph, 10/08/2007
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