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I am not sure what the point is of the material posted below. The material 
implies that scientists are backing off from anthropogenic global warming 
which couldn't be further from the truth. Some of the material comes from the 
website of Senator Imhofe of Oklahoma who, at the risk of using an ad hominem 
attack, is paid for and owned by the energy industry.   I wouldn't trust a 
word he says without independent verification of the sources.  I researched 
Claude Allegre who is mentioned. He is a retired geologist, not a 
climatologist and has never published a single research article in a peer 
reviewed journal.  What he has to say is laughably wrong.  If anyone is 
interested here is some refutation of his article from a www.realclimate.org 
a blog run by serious climate change researchers and an extremely reliable 
source of rational information on global warming.  Here is a specific link to 
material refuting Claude Allegre:  
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/10/con-allegre-ma-non-troppo/
 
 
 
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In a message dated 5/16/2007 4:05:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
lbsaltzman@aol.com writes:

In  fairness to Gore, he was holding Senate hearings over 15 years ago on 
global  warming and got a big yawn from politicians and the public.  As  
Vice-President he pushed Clinton hard on the issue of global warming.  



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May 15, 2007


Posted by Marc Morano – _Marc_Morano@EPW.Senate.Gov_ 
(mailto:Marc_Morano@EPW.Senate.Gov)   - 9:14 PM ET  
Climate Momentum  Shifting: Prominent Scientists Reverse Belief in Man-made 
Global Warming -  Now Skeptics 
Growing Number of  Scientists Convert to Skeptics After Reviewing New 
Research  
Following the U.S. Senate's vote today  on a global warming measure (see 
today's AP article: _Senate Defeats Climate Change Measure_ 
(http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/05/15/ap3725193.html) ,) it is an  
opportune time to examine 
the recent and quite remarkable momentum shift taking  place in climate 
science. 

Many former believers in catastrophic man-made  global warming have recently 
reversed themselves and are now climate  skeptics.  The names included below 
are just a sampling of the  prominent scientists who have spoken out recently 
to oppose former Vice  President Al Gore, the United Nations, and the media 
driven “consensus” on  man-made global warming.   
The list below is just the tip of the  iceberg.  A more detailed and 
comprehensive sampling of scientists who  have only recently spoken out 
against 
climate hysteria will be forthcoming in a  soon to be released U.S. Senate 
report. 
Please stay tuned to this website, as  this new government report is set to 
redefine the current climate debate.  
In the meantime, please review the  list of scientists below and ask yourself 
why the media is missing one of the  biggest stories in climate of 2007.  
Feel free to distribute the partial  list of scientists who recently 
converted 
to 
skeptics to your local schools  and universities. The voices of rank and file 
scientists  opposing climate doomsayers can serve as a counter to the  
alarmism that children are being exposed to on a daily basis. (See Washington 
 
Post 
April 16, 2007 article about kids fearing of a _“climactic Armageddon”_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/15/AR2007041501164_pf.
html)  )  
The media's climate fear factor  seemingly grows louder even as the latest 
science grows less and less alarming  by the day. (See Der Spiegel May 7, 
2007 
article: _Not the End  of the World as We Know It_ 
(http://newsbusters.org/node/12628)  ) It is also worth  noting that the 
proponents of climate fears are 
increasingly attempting  to suppress dissent by skeptics. (See UPI May 10, 
2007 
article: _U.N. official says it's 'completely immoral' to doubt global  
warming fears_ 
(http://www.upi.com/International_Intelligence/Analysis/2007/05/10/analysis_un_calls_climate_debate_over/6480/)
  
)  
Once Believers, Now Skeptics (  _Link to pdf version_ 
(http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=c5e16731-3c64-481c-9a36-d70
2baea2a42)  )   
_Geophysicist Dr. Claude Allegre, a_ 
(http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=E58DFF04-5A65-42A4-9F82-873
81DE894CD) _ top  geophysicist and French Socialist who has authored more 
than 100 scientific  articles_ (javascript:void(0);/*1179277419981*/)  and 
written 11 books and received numerous  scientific awards including the 
Goldschmidt 
Medal from the Geochemical Society  of the United States, converted from 
climate alarmist to  skeptic in 2006. Allegre, who was one of the first 
scientists 
to sound global  warming fears 20 years ago, now says the cause of climate 
change is "unknown"  and accused the “prophets of doom of global warming” of 
being motivated by  money, noting that "the ecology of helpless protesting 
has 
become a very  lucrative business for some people!" “Glaciers’ chronicles or 
historical  archives point to the fact that climate is a capricious 
phenomena. 
This fact is  confirmed by mathematical meteorological theories. So, let us 
be 
cautious,”  Allegre explained in a September 21, 2006 article in the French 
newspaper  L'EXPRESS. _The National Post_ 
(http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=2f4cc62e-5b0d-4b59-8705-fc28f14da388)
  
in Canada also 
profiled Allegre on  March 2, 2007, noting “Allegre has the highest 
environmental 
credentials. The  author of early environmental books, he fought successful 
battles to protect the  ozone layer from CFCs and public health from lead 
pollution.
” Allegre now calls  fears of a climate disaster "simplistic and obscuring 
the true dangers” mocks  "the greenhouse-gas fanatics whose proclamations 
consist in denouncing man's  role on the climate without doing anything about 
it 

except organizing  conferences and preparing protocols that become dead 
letters." 
Allegre, a member of both the French and U.S. Academy of  Sciences, had 
previously expressed concern about manmade global warming. "By  burning 
fossil 
fuels, man enhanced the concentration of carbon dioxide in the  atmosphere 
which 

has raised the global mean temperature by half a degree in the  last 
century," 
Allegre _wrote_ (http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/sciwarn.html)  20 years 
ago. 
In addition, Allegre was one of  1500 scientists who signed a November 18, 
1992 letter titled “World Scientists'  Warning to Humanity” in which the 
scientists warned that global warming’s  “potential risks are very great.”

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