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- From: "J Kolenovsky" <garden@hal-pc.org>
- To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] The Fed
- Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:27:36 -0500
"How we spend are our money is much more
influential than any political vote we will ever
cast. Indeed, often it happens that the way we
spend our money completely cancels out our vote." Y
Yes! Cut consumption by 65% and lets stand back and watch those little
ivory "prima donna" towers start to crumble. Damn, this reminds me of
the 60's and overthrowing the establishment.
Message: 6
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 02:04:38 -0500
From: "Robert Waldrop" <bwaldrop@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] The Fed
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
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From: "Patrick McKown" <identi1956@yahoo.com>
> I have read many things about this as being a
> fact of sorts. So how do you remedy it? If >you>
> accept this as a truth and find it intolerable,
> what should be done to change it?
++++++++++
You promote permaculture. That's a major part of
the answer to all these big invisible stucture
problems. They are the result of large numbers of
people making lots of bad decisions. Instead of
creating synergy, a "dysergy" comes into being.
People are always wanting to tinker with the big
structures and reform them and vote for somebody
who is going to Do Something about them, but it's
like bindweed, cut off the top and it comes back
even stronger and smothers everything.
The roots of these big structural issues are in
myriads of personal decisions.
If we want better, more just, most sustainable Big
Invisible Structures, then we're only going to get
there by growing them from the grassroots. As we
do this, we cut off the nourishment and thus the
growth and eventually even the existence of the
bad Big Invisible Structures that seem so terribly
powerful. I tend to think that focusing on the
Big Invisible Structures is part of the process of
giving them nourishment and thus power and growth.
How we spend are our money is much more
influential than any political vote we will ever
cast. Indeed, often it happens that the way we
spend our money completely cancels out our vote.
The big news about the fed is that it is a
financial conspiracy that transfers wealth from
the entire population to the elite. Is this really
a surprise? People knew that it was a scam when it
was established. It's not news.
What's news is permaculture.
It's news because it is accessble to everyone. It
is empowering. It protects the dignity of all
beings. It is practical. It is successional (that
is, you don't have to get it right the first
time). It stacks functions and has a diversity of
elements supporting important functions. It is
site and client specific. It tears down barriers
and weaves new connections. It humbles the rich
and exalts the poor and saves the middle class
from its own contradictions.
As we move towards the goal of a permaculture
design for every human habitation and place of
enterprise and zone of community, we will one day
be able to do permaculture designs to guide the
cultivation of a Big Invisible Financial Structure
that will replace the Fed with something much more
just and sustainable.
Imagine a Congress full of people who had all
completed permaculture design courses, and had
integrated that knowledge into their lives.
Bob Waldrop
tadpole in training with Barking Frogs
Permaculture
www.barkingfrogspermaculture.org
--
J. Kolenovsky, habitat environmentalist www.celestialhabitats.com
Energy shortages proves its right. Peak Oil is changing your lifestyle.
www.energybulletin.net www.peak-oil-news.info/ www.theoildrum.com/
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
CAVM, 05/08/2007
-
Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
Martin Naylor, 05/08/2007
- Re: [permaculture] The Fed, John Harvey, 05/10/2007
- Re: [permaculture] The Fed, Marjory, 05/10/2007
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
J Kolenovsky, 05/11/2007
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
Patrick McKown, 05/11/2007
- Re: [permaculture] The Fed, Robert Waldrop, 05/11/2007
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
Patrick McKown, 05/11/2007
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
J Kolenovsky, 05/11/2007
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
Tommy Tolson, 05/11/2007
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 05/12/2007
- Re: [permaculture] The Fed, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 05/12/2007
- Re: [permaculture] The Fed, peter chama, 05/20/2007
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 05/12/2007
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
Patrick McKown, 05/12/2007
- Re: [permaculture] The Fed, Tommy Tolson, 05/12/2007
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
richard wade, 05/13/2007
- Re: [permaculture] The Fed, Patrick McKown, 05/13/2007
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
Paul Cereghino, 05/14/2007
- Re: [permaculture] The Fed, Patrick McKown, 05/16/2007
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
Tommy Tolson, 05/11/2007
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Re: [permaculture] The Fed,
Martin Naylor, 05/08/2007
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