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- From: "Primal Parent" <primalparent@hotmail.com>
- To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture in viticulture?
- Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:40:58 +0000
i remember hearing of roses planted at the end of each row of grapes in eastern europe. the roses acted as indicators, supposedly whatever attacked the grape vines would attack the roses first.
-roman
From: lbsaltzman@aol.com
Reply-To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture in viticulture?
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:36:52 -0400
There is some evidence that the Chumash Indians near Santa Barbara California, encouraged roses in association with grape vines. The first Spanish invaders were astounded to see large acreage of grapes and roses. The roses looked like the Rose of Castille that grew in Spain. Somewhere I read an article that roses are grown in Greece with grape vines, but maybe somebody has a better reference on that one. I seem to remember that there was research that they inhibited White fly.
-----Original Message-----
From: cestin@earthlink.net
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:28 AM
Subject: [permaculture] Permaculture in viticulture?
Does anyone have any information about permaculture practices in
viticulture? I know that many permaculture principles of encouraging
biodiversity and soil health make sense. But I'm curious about more
extensive applications - are there "guild plantings" that might enhance
wine grape quality? Does comfrey have a beneficial effect when planted
near grape vines, etc. I'm guessing that Australia might have found a
wedding between permaculture and viticulture, more likely than in the
U.S. With the movement toward more sustainable agricultural practices
in the wine-growing industry, it would make sense to draw on the
practices of permaculture. Even though grape-growing tends to be a
mono-culture crop, I would imagine that there would be ways to
compensate for that and create a healthier more bio-diverse system in a
vineyard.
thanks,
-Chuck
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[permaculture] Permaculture in viticulture?,
cestin, 03/24/2007
- Re: [permaculture] Permaculture in viticulture?, Dylan Ford, 03/24/2007
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Re: [permaculture] Permaculture in viticulture?,
Primal Parent, 03/25/2007
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