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  • From: lbsaltzman@aol.com
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture in viticulture?
  • Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:36:52 -0400

There is some evidence that the Chumash Indians near Santa Barbara
California, encouraged roses in association with grape vines. The first
Spanish invaders were astounded to see large acreage of grapes and roses. The
roses looked like the Rose of Castille that grew in Spain. Somewhere I read
an article that roses are grown in Greece with grape vines, but maybe
somebody has a better reference on that one. I seem to remember that there
was research that they inhibited White fly.


-----Original Message-----
From: cestin@earthlink.net
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:28 AM
Subject: [permaculture] Permaculture in viticulture?


Does anyone have any information about permaculture practices in
viticulture? I know that many permaculture principles of encouraging
biodiversity and soil health make sense. But I'm curious about more
extensive applications - are there "guild plantings" that might enhance
wine grape quality? Does comfrey have a beneficial effect when planted
near grape vines, etc. I'm guessing that Australia might have found a
wedding between permaculture and viticulture, more likely than in the
U.S. With the movement toward more sustainable agricultural practices
in the wine-growing industry, it would make sense to draw on the
practices of permaculture. Even though grape-growing tends to be a
mono-culture crop, I would imagine that there would be ways to
compensate for that and create a healthier more bio-diverse system in a
vineyard.

thanks,

-Chuck
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