permaculture

[mitshell <mitshell@netvision.net.il>]

in our part of the world
it only rains in the winter - some 4-5 months
and even that is a bit erratic
even so collecting rain water from the roof to be used then in the summer 
is on the agenda but will require the building of a collecting cistern - in 
of itself not a cheap endeavor.


re the purification - as its the first time around - we are taking a safe 
approach especially since I would like to water the grass with it

Mitch
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <permaculture-request@lists.ibiblio.org>
To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:00 PM
Subject: permaculture Digest, Vol 40, Issue 29


> Send permaculture mailing list submissions to
> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> permaculture-request@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> permaculture-owner@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of permaculture digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: pumps and grey water systems (andrew phillips)
>   2. fwd [spiralseed] Spanish edition of Permaculture Beginners
>      Guide launched in Barcelona! (Graham)
>   3. (no subject) (Tyrone LaFay)
>   4. Giant grass to get larger role in energy supply - Yahoo! News
>      (Lawrence F. London, Jr.)
>   5. pumps and greywater systems (Rain Tenaqiya)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:50:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: andrew phillips <greenman124@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] pumps and grey water systems
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <20060524195056.53165.qmail@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> I guess you are talking about gray water, not rain
> water. What about collecting rain water off the roof
> and using gravity feed to get it to your garden.
>
> If you are using the water for garden then why need to
> purify so much? Acid rain kicks in at Ph4.5 - up unil
> then plants tend to take up your coloidal compost
> rather than nasty stuff - but you need the copost (and
> mulch).
>
>
> --- mitshell <mitshell@netvision.net.il> wrote:
>
> > Recently completed building a water purification
> > system using barrels filled
> > with stone and water plants. Water runs thru 14
> > barrels that are lined up
> > serially.
> >
> > It then fills up 500 liter bucket that I then want
> > to use to water the
> > garden which is located uphill
> >
> > I was thinking of using a pump to pump up the water
> > to the computerized
> > water irrigation system that I currently use to time
> > the watering. However
> > doing this is now problematic in that I can not hook
> > up the pump to turn on
> > only when the timed irrigation system turns on. If I
> > cant do this I run the
> > risk of having the pump on when the system is off
> > and thus bursting a pipe
> >
> > Any body with experience in this area
> >
> > All help welcome
> >
> > Thanx
> > Mitch Schertz
> > Zichron Yaakov ISRAEL
> > mitshell@netvision.net.il
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > permaculture mailing list
> > permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 21:02:12 +0100
> From: Graham <grahamburnett@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: [permaculture] fwd [spiralseed] Spanish edition of
> Permaculture Beginners Guide launched in Barcelona!
> To: VegansUncensored@yahoogroups.com, veganorganic@yahoogroups.com,
> "Tom (Idler)" <tom@idler.co.uk>, theveganwarrior@yahoo.com,
> thekemps@21garden.fsnet.co.uk, Steve Stuffit <stuffit@riseup.net>,
> Steve Dobson <Dobste@aol.com>, Stella <stella@finca-luna.com>,
> "pfaf@yahoogroups.com" <pfaf@yahoogroups.com>, PermaLearners
> <permalearnersuk@yahoogroups.com>, Permakultur Akademie - Jascha Rohr
> <j.rohr@permakultur-akademie.net>, Permaculture UK list
> <permaculture_uk@yahoogroups.co.uk>, permaculture
> <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>, "AllotmentsUK@yahoogroups.com"
> <AllotmentsUK@yahoogroups.com>, naturewiseteachers@yahoogroups.com,
> Emma Ramet <emmaramet@fastmail.fm>, eco_vegans@yahoogroups.com
> Message-ID: <4474BBC4.60504@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> For details and photo see http://www.spiralseed.co.uk/spain/
>
> Spanish Permaculture Beginners Guide Launched
>
> The weekend of 5th-8th May saw the launch of the first Spanish
> language permaculture publication, 'Permacultura ? Una Guia para
> Principiantes' at the annual Biocultura Fair held in Barcelona. The
> book is a translation of Graham Burnett's 'Permaculture ? a Beginners
> Guide' originally published by Spiralseed (www.spiralseed.co.uk) in
> 2000, and features an illustrated introduction to the ethics,
> principles and applications of permaculture, such as urban gardens,
> LETS systems, community building projects and farms. The translation
> is the work of a team consisting of Antonio Scotti, Stefania Strega,
> Sara Arnaiz and Zoe Costa, and has been jointly produced by Academia
> de Permacultura (the Spanish Permaculture Academy),
> PermaCultura-es.Org and EcoHabitar magazine (the Spanish equivalent of
> Permaculture Magazine).
>
> To celebrate the book's launch, the author was invited to the
> Biocultura event, where he led two presentations and question and
> answer sessions at the Olympic stadium, inside the main lecture
> theatre and at a less formal event in the small teepee area outside,
> both which were very ably translated by Antonio Scotti. Signed copies
> of the book were also sold at the Permaculture stall at the fair.
>
> 'Permaculture a Beginners Guide' has also been translated into
> Croatian, Hebrew and Belgian and Hungarian editions are in the works.
> For more information or to order copies of the Spanish edition see
> http://www.permacultura-es.org/public_html/index.php
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 16:42:09 -0700
> From: "Tyrone LaFay" <earthcaredesign@peacemail.com>
> Subject: [permaculture] (no subject)
> To: bellinghampermacultureclub@egroups.com,
> outbackcommunity@yahoogroups.com, permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org,
> permaculture@openpermaculture.org, vanpermaculture@yahoogroups.ca
> Cc: tlafay@villagedesign.org
> Message-ID:
> <595B9391E460B6E4485EBEAAE059246E@earthcaredesign.peacemail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> -----Sorry for any cross-postings......Please distribute---------
>
>
> PERMACULTURE & ORGANICS SKILLBUILDING IMMERSION
>  - an internship style course at Tui Community, Golden Bay,
> Aotearoa/New Zealand
>
> 6 WEEKS:  Sun 24 SEPT - Sat 4 NOV 2006
>
> This is a very practical hands-on course where participants put
> directly into practice in-situ on Tui land what they learn
> theoretically.  Teaching style is interactive, energizing and fun.  It
> is a balance of head, heart and hands! The main tutors are Tui
> Community residents, Robina McCurdy and Huckleberry Leonard. For their
> backgrounds, check out their website:  www.greenworld-earthcare.org
> From time to time, other residents of Tui Community and Golden Bay may 
> also tutor in their specialized fields.
>
> The course includes covering the standard international two week
> Permaculture Design curriculum, spread in an integrated way over the
> full duration, culminating in a main design project, applied near the
> residential area.  A permaculture Design Certificate (from Earthcare
> Education Aotearoa) will be issued.  For newcomers to Permaculture,
> this is a very grounding way to learn it 'in your bodies'.  For
> participants already holding the Permaculture Design Certificate, this
> will be an excellent refresher, with the possibility of also doing a
> little tutoring. During the course, participants will be given guidance in 
> the designing of their own properties/a property of their choice, and will 
> be given research to do in this respect, in advance of the course.
>
> Course programme broadly covers:
> - organic growing (emphasis on vegetables),
> - rural land management (eg orchards, pastures, trees),
> - permaculture design & implementation
> - intentional community integrated land-use (this community being one
> of the models amongst many)
> - personal & community development/empowerment,
> - bioregional wildcrafting, outdoor adventuring & nature connection.
>
> The home-base for this residential course is in the Tui Treefield - a
> separate cultural & education area in a land-based community operated
> by a Charitable Trust.  The Treefield is a purpose-created outdoor
> events field, with kitchen-dining room area, shower-toilet facilities,
> two gathering centres/classroom spaces, plus some tipi, dome & caravan
> accommodations.
> Internet access will be provided, and there is an excellent library of
> relevant books available. To find out more about Tui Community and Tui
> Trust, visit:  www.tuitust.org.nz
>
> It is planned for the first two weeks of the course to happen elsewhere 
> than Tui, with the first few days in a retreat type situation to begin 
> building our learning community and establish the basis of learning, 
> followed by a tour of Permaculture and organic properties in the top of 
> the South Island.
>
> Whilst on Tui, the course will operate Monday to Friday, and every
> alternate Saturday morning.  The rhythm of each day would be shaped
> somewhat as follows:
> Early Morning:  Community-building time & introduction to theme of the
> day
> Mornings:  Outdoor hands-on learning
> Early Afternoon:  Own time/self study
> Mid Afternoon:  Indoor tutored session on the theme of morning's
> practical activity
> Some Evenings:  relevant slideshows, videos, cultural experiences.
>
> Number of Participants:  8 - 12, full time.
> Cost:  Aiming to be affordable. Course is still being budgeted.
>
> This is the first course of its kind on Tui, and so is somewhat of a
> pilot for us.  However, the organiser has had substantial experience
> through running the year long course 'PLANET Organic', in Golden Bay in 
> 2002 and 2003, and is applying the learnings from that to create this new 
> programme. We plan to run this course twice a year, and possibly to 
> increase its duration.  For further information, contact Robina McCurdy: 
> robina@win.co.nz    Phone 03 5258399
>
>
>
>
> "A designer is an emerging synthesis of artist, inventor, mechanic, 
> objective economist and evolutionary strategist."
> - R. Buckminster Fuller
>
> More than 300,000 seals could be killed in Canada this year - most of
> them babies. Tell Canada's Prime Minister to stop the hunt now!
> http://go.care2.com/stophunt
>
>
> http://www.Care2.com  Free e-mail. 100MB storage.  Helps nonprofits.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 10:29:28 -0400
> From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
> Subject: [permaculture] Giant grass to get larger role in energy
> supply - Yahoo! News
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <4475BF48.4080601@intrex.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>
> <http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/energy_britain_biomass_dc;_ylt=ApxR.4Ei8tPHBkMbYZvUYf9hr7sF;_ylu=X3oDMTBhcmljNmVhBHNlYwNtcm5ld3M->
>
> Giant grass to get larger role in energy supply
>
> By Nigel Hunt Thu May 25, 3:45 AM ET
>
> LONDON (Reuters) - Fields of swaying giant grass and patchwork patterns of 
> willow plantations could become common sights
> as Britain turns to crops for heating and electricity to tackle the 
> effects of global warming.
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
> "The main difference is the height (compared with conventional crops)," 
> said Angela Karp, deputy head of the plant and
> invertebrate ecology division at Rothamsted Research center.
>
> "People are used to looking at certain landscapes, such as fields of 
> cereals, and this will change," she said.
>
> The impact on the English landscape -- which has an almost mythical status 
> in the nation's literature and psyche -- 
> could be similar to the change after rapeseed acreage expanded in the 
> 1970s and 1980s, covering the countryside with
> fields full of distinctive bright yellow flowers.
>
> The use of crops to generate electricity is touted by some experts as one 
> of the best ways to reduce emissions of
> greenhouse gases, blamed by many scientists for global warming.
>
> Biomass -- products from forestry, energy crops and a variety of other 
> materials which might otherwise be treated as
> waste -- generates about 1 percent of Britain's electricity and provides a 
> similar proportion of heat generation.
>
> Miscanthus, or elephant grass, and short rotation coppice willow, are 
> already helping fire up power stations, heat
> schools, hospitals and factories.
>
> Karp said research is being carried out on how best to blend energy crops 
> into the landscape, noting in some areas they
> could eventually account for 10 percent of agricultural land.
>
> In late April, the government announced measures to promote biomass as it 
> seeks to rapidly expand the proportion of
> Britain's energy needs derived from renewable resources.
>
> "We are going to need everything we can lay our hands on if we are going 
> to reduce our carbon footprint in the world,"
> said Ben Gill, a former president of the National Farmers' Union who leads 
> the British government's Biomass Task Force.
>
> "WATCH THE MONEY GROW"
>
> Britain is seeking to produce 10 percent of its electricity from renewable 
> sources such as biomass by 2010 and to double
> that proportion by 2020.
>
> A government-commissioned task force last year said biomass could reduce 
> Britain's carbon emissions by almost three
> million tonnes a year if used for heating -- the equivalent of taking 3.25 
> million cars of the road, according to the
> government.
>
> Miscanthus is a woody grass which originated in Asia and has very high 
> growth rates. It can reach about 3.5 meters (11.5
> ft) in height and can be harvested each year.
>
> Short rotation coppice (SRC) are densely planted varieties of either 
> poplar or most commonly willow. They grow to about
> 4 meters (13 ft) and are normally harvested every 3 years.
>
> "Short rotation coppice could rise 5 to 10 times from the current area of 
> 3,000 to 5,000 hectares by 2010," said biomass
> trader Willie McGhee of fuel company Greenergy.
>
> Greenergy said in May it had started taking deliveries of SRC willow wood 
> chips for a 30 megawatt biomass power station
> in northeast England, expected to come online next year.
>
> One megawatt is roughly enough power for 1,000 homes.
>
> As well as providing cleaner electricity, biomass crops require less care 
> and maintenance, giving farmers the chance to
> either semi-retire to spend time on other ventures.
>
> "You just stare out of the window and watch the money growing," Greenergy 
> trader McGhee said.
>
> SPARE TIME
>
> Energy crops could provide a boost for a strapped sector: total income 
> from farming fell by 8.9 percent last year as
> European Union reforms have cut back subsidies and exposed local produce 
> to growing competition from cheaper imports.
>
> Farmers have diversified to cope with the changes; sometimes directly 
> marketing products through farm shops, running
> farm zoos or converting old barns into commercial properties.
>
> Energy crops offer another alternative and have received government grants 
> since 2000, although the current scheme is
> due to run out at the end of this year. The government has said it will 
> continue its support in principle.
>
> Britain is also turning to crops to help meet its other major energy 
> need - transport fuel.
>
> Oil from crops such as rapeseed can be used to make biodiesel while wheat 
> is expected to be used to make bioethanol.
> Biofuels are normally blended with petrol or diesel but can be consumed 
> directly in some vehicles.
>
> Just how much land will be eventually dedicated to growing crops for 
> energy will depend on the wider effects of climate
> change. If global warming begins to stunt the world's food production as 
> consumption expands, priorities could change.
>
> "The amount of spare land away from food production is going to become 
> increasingly constrained as impacts of climate
> change become more pronounced," Gill said.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 08:50:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rain Tenaqiya <raincascadia@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [permaculture] pumps and greywater systems
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Message-ID: <20060525155039.50028.qmail@web34712.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> This idea may be less efficient than L.L.'s idea of pumping water to an 
> uphill storage tank, but it's simpler in some ways and it's how I'm 
> irrigating a small area that is above my spring elevation.  Just use an 
> on-demand water pump, with a pressure regulator, if necessary.  The pump 
> turns off at a designated pressure, so when the timer has the system off, 
> the pressure builds up and the pump turns off.  This layout does put more 
> pressure on your timer valve, but not necessarily more than any other 
> pressurized water system.
>
>  Good luck,
>
>  Rain
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone  calls to 30+ countries for just 
> 2?/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> permaculture mailing list
> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture
>
>
> End of permaculture Digest, Vol 40, Issue 29
> ********************************************
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/347 - Release Date: 24/05/2006