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[Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com>]

Hey Bart,

I couldn't be so adamant about this issue if my position weren't backed up
with excellent science. If you're interested in an superb answer to all your
questions, and to see how critiques of invasion biology are very well
integrated into a scientific structure (and how invasion biology itself is
not!), take the time to read David Theodoropoulos' book, "Invasion Biology:
Critique of a Pseudoscience." Well worth it.

And congrats on writing up your zone and sector ideas for the latest
Activist that you presented in earlier form so wonderfully in our design
course. Great stuff--I'm only sorry that the drawings were so blurry (a
common problem with the Activist's printer).

Toby


On 11/17/05 11:04 AM, "Bart Anderson" <bart@cwo.com> wrote:

> 
> I feel ambivalent about the ideas on invasives put forward by
> Claude William Genest, Toby Huff and others.
> 
> On the one hand, I agree with many of the criticisms of the
> standard orthodoxy on invasives.
> 
> The weak point is that the criticism is not integrated into
> a scientific structure.  How do these ideas fit into the
> current understanding of ecology?  What are the points of
> agreement and disagreemnt with specific theories?  What
> research is relevant?
> 
> Toby has frequently called for scientific trials of
> permaculture techniques.  I think the scientific approach
> is essential as one goes beyond the level of garden and
> farm.  Informal observation is not adqueate to deal with
> the huge areas and long time scales over which ecological
> change takes place.
> 
> Bart Anderson
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