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  • From: "Kevin Topek" <ktopek@houston.rr.com>
  • To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] DCC/ was self-sufficiency
  • Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:43:26 -0500

New York City is an amazingly green place. There are gardens all over
Alphabet City (Lower Eastside). The new park space along the Hudson River,
north of Battery Park, will help in refoliating that corridor. There are
three dimensional parks going in near the apartment buildings being built up
around the financial district. The Potato Famine Park, cantilevered and
planted like Ireland of 1850, is gorgeous! I'm finding New Yawk Shitty very
progressive in terms of urban greenspace design. And that's a helluva
mouthful from a native Texan, I tell you what!

Kevin

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From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@gilanet.com>
To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 5:14 PM
Subject: [permaculture] DCC/ was self-sufficiency



Agree 100%. And the dream of making NYC sustainable - the heart of the DCC
(dominant commercial culture) - is idle fantasy. I'm not telling people in
NYC to get out of there; in fact I'm counting on them staying there and
leaving more room out here for the rest of us. We don't have to discourage
anyone; simply trying to figure out how to do it will be discouraging
enough, as we see from the plea for ideas. If permaculture is turned into a
backyard hobby I'm outta here. But I believe PC is one good idea that isn't
likely to get co-opted by the DCC because without real permaculture real
quick on a massive scale there isn't going to be any commercial culture
left. The oil wars have already begun.

paul@largocreekfarms.com
http://medicinehill.net

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On 10/22/2004 at 4:40 PM Michael Murphy wrote:

>"Starting from the base of natural, social, and economic equities, rural
>life is nature rich and social poor"
>
>That was before satellite TV, satellite radio and the Internet, soon to be
>accessible over WiMax true broadband everywhere. Technology made rural
>life nature rich and social rich, and just as the auto enabled the
>suburbs, the semiconductor enables the exurbs. Living in bricks and
>concrete is a preference, and no longer a necessity.
>
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