permaculture

["Foss _" <old_growth@hotmail.com>]

I've tried sheet mulching works well with just about everything except, 
Canadian thistle and quack.

I've seen rotations of oats/a rye, clover, and p rye to sufficate out the 
two.  This usually takes up 3 years though.

Where I see quack as major problem in my fields is in lower areas where 
water sometimes sit and soils are more compacted.

Currently I'm trying to work with quack, letting my living "sheet" mulch and 
constant mowing deal with the issue.  I'm hoping a good stand of Dutch white 
will break up the soils enough to outcompete the quack.  Also trying some 
stands of sorghem/sudans and sweet clover, both with excellent root mass, in 
the beds.

Heard one good use for quack, dried and ground into paste with yeast and 
flour.  Made into pellets for slug food, poison slug food.  Something in tht 
quack.

Jeff

> From: mIEKAL aND <dtv@mwt.net>
> Reply-To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Broadminded thinking?
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:31:44 -0500
>
> Ive left black plastic over quack grass areas for several years & still 
> it'll grow
> back within a month or two.  the only way we remove it here is by hand.  
> Ive read
> numerous accounts that a pig tractor does wonders for removing quack grass 
> but have
> never seen it in operation.  We make a great coffee substitute with 
> quackgrass
> roots, just dry them & grind them.. tastes remarkably like cafix.  mIEKAL
>
> Jerome Osentowski wrote:
>
> > Rick, In replaceing glyposphates, we use two layer of clear plastic to
> > solarize the quackgrass, which will come back through sheetmulch.  We 
> leave
> > it on for a month, and have had good results.  I have wiped out much of 
> the
> > quackgrass here and have only a few reserves ,that I manage as fodder 
> for my
> > rabbits. It is 18% protien, and the only green in good supply at this 
> time.
> > It also has many medicinal properties, helps with the prostate.  So 
> don't
> > nuke all those weeds.  jerome
> > --
> > Jerome Osentowski, Director
> > Central Rocky Mountain Permaculture Institute
>
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