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- From: Claude Genest <genest@together.net>
- To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Songbirds.....
- Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:02:24 -0400
Thanks Steve,
This option is quite popular around here, but I'm afraid it plays into the
"best and ONLY the best " mentality that seeks to "solve" the problem
without recognizing that the apparent "problem" is in fact only a
symptom....
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for bats, but not instead of a healthy
population of songbirds. And best as I can tell ( hence the need for
corroborating evidence) this Spring is as Silent as they've all been for the
last fifty years, and if it hadn't been for Miss Carson's book, I doubt I'd
ever have noticed that this is NOT NORMAL !
Regards,
Claude
> From: Steve Diver <steved@ncatark.uark.edu>
> Reply-To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:37:42 -0500
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Songbirds.....
>
> Claude Genest wrote:
>
>> Anyway, in re-reading "SILENT SPRING", the late great RAchel Carson makes
>> the observation that there's no better pesticide than songbirds, the very
>> creatures that have been decimatd by chemical pesticides ( they eat the
>> worms that ingest the pesticides)
>>
>> I'm looking for some stats/info on the decline of songbirds...Any leads ?
>
> Try bats!! Here's a recent post from Sanet.
>
> Habitat management for birds and bats and beneficial insects,
> i.e., PLANNED BIODIVERSITY, is a very practical and
> realistic approach.
>
> Steve Diver
>
> ===================================================
> HOLY GUANO, BATMAN, HERES THE LATEST IN INSECT CONTROL
> With a grant from the Organic Farming Research Foundation, the
> North American Bat House Research Project has established 45
> bat houses on 10 organic farms in central Calif. In their first 90
> days of operations a third of the houses were occupied by
> Mexican free-tail bats and the bats quickly began work as
> insect predators. Their favorites are armyworms, cutworms,
> corn earworms, leafhoppers and codling moths. Other
> bat varieties the housing project hopes to attract include
> predators of cucumber beetles, stinkbugs and other small
> beetles and moths. For more info on bat houses go to
> http://www.batcon.org/bhra/index.html or email rrooney@batcon.org.
>
> Source:
> ============Willard Thompsons Field Talk==================
> For the week of Nov. 5, 2001
> Field Talk is a weekly e-newsletter published by Rincon Publishing,
> Publishers of California Grower magazine.
> Field Talk is a copyright publication of Rincon Publishing.
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Re: [permaculture] Permaculture epithets/wisdom thus far,
Robert Waldrop, 04/06/2002
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[permaculture] Songbirds.....,
Claude Genest, 04/10/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Songbirds.....,
Steve Diver, 04/10/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Songbirds.....,
Claude Genest, 04/10/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Songbirds.....,
Steve Diver, 04/10/2002
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[permaculture] Steve Diver !,
Claude Genest, 04/11/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Songbirds!, Steve Diver, 04/12/2002
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[permaculture] Steve Diver !,
Claude Genest, 04/11/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Songbirds.....,
Steve Diver, 04/10/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Songbirds.....,
Claude Genest, 04/10/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Songbirds....., Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette, 04/10/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Songbirds.....,
Mark, 04/10/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Songbirds.....,
Claude Genest, 04/11/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Songbirds....., Mark, 04/12/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Songbirds.....,
Claude Genest, 04/11/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Songbirds.....,
Steve Diver, 04/10/2002
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[permaculture] Spiders.....,
Claude Genest, 04/10/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Spiders....., Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette, 04/10/2002
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [permaculture] Permaculture epithets/wisdom thus far, Robert Waldrop, 04/14/2002
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[permaculture] Songbirds.....,
Claude Genest, 04/10/2002
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