Percy-L: Literary, Religious, Scientific, and Philosophical Discussion of Walker Percy

["RHONDA MCDONNELL" <rhonda_mcdonnell AT msn.com>]

You're right, Episcopalian is the American term.  For what it's worth, 
chapter 12 begins, "Father Weatherbee sat behind Jack Curl's mahogany desk 
with its collection of Russian ikons and bleeding Mexican crucifixes." Both 
Weatherbee and Curl are Episcopalian. What I can't remember is why Percy 
made them Episcopalian. He discusses it in an interview, but I don't have 
the time to dig it up. While I'm here in chapter 12, Fr. Weatherbee's rant:

How can we be the best earest most generous people on earth, and at the same 
time so unhappy? How harsh everyone is here! How restless! How impatient! 
How worried! How sarcastic! How unhappy! How hateful! How pleasure-loving! 
How lascivious! Above all, how selfish! Why is it that we have more than any 
other people, are more generous with what we have, and yet are so selfish 
and unhappy? Why do we think of hothing but our own pleasure? I cannot 
believe my eyes at what I see on television. It makes me blush with shame. 
Did you know that pleasure-seeking leads to cruelty? That is why more and 
more people beat their children. Children interfere with pleasure. Do you 
hate children? Why can't we be grateful for our great blessings and thank 
God? . . . Why is it that Americans who are the best dearest most generous 
people on earth are so unhappy?"

He's definitely in the same vein as Father Smith. And Boomer (wasn't that 
his name?) is Last Gentleman is of the Jack Curl type. The question 
beginning of this line of thought, regarding Percy's priests, is a good one. 
It looks like he's working from two types--my question is, can Val from Last 
Gentleman be grouped with Frs. Weatherbee and Smith?
--Rhonda
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity. -- WB Yeats


> From: "Jonathan Potter" <jdp AT scn.org>
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> Subject: Re: [percy-l] LITR
> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:02:24 -0700
>
> I thought Fr. Weatherbee (the priest Will questions at the end, grabbing 
> his
> arm) was Roman Catholic.  It's been awhile since I've read it, but I'm
> pretty sure it was just the priest earlier in the book that was
> Anglican/Episcopalian.
>
> Jonathan Potter
> Spokane WA
>
>
> On 4/8/06, RHONDA MCDONNELL <rhonda_mcdonnell AT msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > wasn't the first one you mention the guy that wore the jumpsuits and 
> acts
> > more like a building super than a priest? Jack Curl maybe? The second 
> was
> > Fr. Weatherbee, whose rant regarding the behavior of Americans is
> > genius--wasn't the quote something about his silly (or simple), holy 
> face?
> > Weatherbee is definitely linked to Fr. Smith. He seems to be daft but 
> he's
> > really the one that's onto something that no one else is paying 
> attention
> > to. He knows the truth of things. That's why Will asks him the important
> > questions. Worth noting is that the priests in 2nd Coming are Anglican 
> (as
> > is the priest Lance is named for in Lancelot).
> >
> > --Rhonda
> > The best lack all convictions, while the worst
> > Are full of passionate intensity. -- WB Yeats
> >
> >
> > >From: <Robert_Pauley AT oxy.com>
> > >Reply-To: "Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion"
> > ><percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >To: <percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [percy-l] LITR
> > >Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:23:07 -0700
> > >
> > >A couple of priests played pivotal roles in The Second Coming.  I don't
> > >recall his name, but the parish priest always trying to encourage Will
> > >Barrett to join his church's men's group outings and otherwise come
> > >"into the fold" was one, and represented the kind the extreme
> > >earnestness which Percy, or at least Barrett, found simultaneously
> > >cloying and yet not unimportant to a community.  The second was an
> > >older, former renegade missionary who jolts Will into his final,
> > >redemptive awareness that "a gift may be a sign of a giver."  I found
> > >this Percy novel to be his most accomplished and accessible: a solidly
> > >grounded meditation on suburban malaise and self-delusion, an effective
> > >and prescient social satire (Will's daughter's "new-age" enthusiasms 
> are
> > >hilarious), and a touching love story.  Not easy to pull off.  It
> > >tracked a character straight through from the impulse to suicide to a
> > >saving awareness without ever resorting to the kind of dopey flourishes
> > >of so many other social satires of the time - and afterward.  
> Basically,
> > >Will Barrett loses his mind without ever losing his head.  I also
> > >appreciated the fact that it followed up on Will Barrett after leaving
> > >him off in a Santa Fe wasteland so many years before.
> > >
> > >Peace.
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > >
> > >From: percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > >[mailto:percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dye, Steve
> > >Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:35 AM
> > >To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion
> > >Subject: Re: [percy-l] LITR
> > >
> > >
> > >You are asking a very loaded question - it will be interesting to see
> > >the responses you get!
> > >
> > >Steven L. Dye, MA
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> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > >[mailto:percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Gray, Rich
> > >Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:31 AM
> > >To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion
> > >Subject: Re: [percy-l] LITR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > >
> > >From: Dye, Steve [mailto:sldye AT bluegrass.org]
> > >Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:43 AM
> > >To: Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion
> > >
> > >Have any of you considered the role of priests in Percy's novels?  Is
> > >there any common thread?
> > >
> > >In The Moviegoer is there a priest?  The role grows into a main
> > >character in The Thanatos Syndrome, Father Reynaldo Smith.  There must
> > >be a purpose for these priests.
> > >
> > >As a Protestant Christian, I would like to know if Catholic Percy
> > >readers see any of these priests as realistic.
> > >
> > >Rich Gray
> >
> >
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