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[Richard Morris <webmaster@pfaf.org>]

John Howe wrote:
>> Thanks JohnH for answering my questions I had a feeling there was 
some way round most of my Q's.

> > 1) Everything seems to be placed in a giant object database
> >         Zope-Instance\var\Data.fs
> >    thats the page templates, scripts, and our actual data.
>
>
> http://zope.org/Members/shh/ExtFile
>
> > 2) All work needs to be done via the web interface.
>
> There is an extension called ZShell @
> http://www.librelogiciel.com/software/ZShell/action_Presentation
>
> > 3) It does not (by default) work through the web server, instead
> > creating its own server with a different port.
>
> or run as a cgi ( fastcgi )

If we go with zope we will need to decide on how to run it.
Standalone application server, apachee module.
> > As an old unix hack who likes to keep things close to the metal this
> > approach make me go ug.
> > At the moment it seems like using zope, I loose all the power of unix
> > instead I'm stuck with the html forms textarea widget which has all the
> > facilities of notepad. And I can only have one edit window open at a time.
>
>
> http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/1054240694
> http://www.zope.org/Members/Caseman/ExternalEditor
>
>
> > Some I feel important questions
> >
> > 1) can we easily extract scripts from zope so we can back them up to CVS.
>
>
> Yes, there are a few Zope CVS products:
>
> http://zope.org/Members/philikon/RevisionManager
> http://zope.org/Members/arielpartners/CVSFile
>
>
> > 2) Can we make it work with content outside the Zope sphere, for
> > instance I'd quite like to index the permaculture mailing lists archive,
> > which are stored in their own manor without having to import the whole
> > lot.
>
> It wouldn't make sense to use Zope in that context IMHO. Mailman is much
> better suited.

The sort of thing i'm thinking of is that there is say a
page about chickens (using a wiki style of things)
from that page we want to refer to other resources
in particular links to to relavant posts in the mailing list archive.

> > There may be stuff which at first seems to be easy using zope, but could
> > have unforsean consequences. For instance in the Zope tutorial (leason 8
> > on images) it happly let me upload a non image file (warez.exe). This
> > could be a gaping hole.
>
> Code for security, allow only valid mime types.
>
> I myself, am a CLI person. I do have a constant axiom, "the right tool for
> the right job, you wouldn't use a chainsaw to slice a birthday cake".
>
> Admittedly, the Zope learning curve is steep, so seem the benefits.
>
> And back to the right tool for the right job, enterprise systems do not
> use single applications to serve all content. And this weaves back to how
> Zope fits into the software guild of HG/Eden?

Still trying to workout what the difference between
application server (zope) and a content managment system (plone? or 
others) is.

Even using zope there are many things we will need to write
(which others have done before). We will basically need to write our own 
content managment system.

        got to go to work

                Rich


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