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["John Howe" <warlock@arashi.com>]

> Exactly what kind of resources do you have John that you could offer
> us?  I'll put my name out there as well as someone who could
> temporarily host zope/cvs/bugzilla.  I'm already overquota with the
> Eden MySQL db, but the company I use are also my friends and live next
> door.  Another solution is that we just break down and buy ourselves
> our own account somewhere.  I bet a $25-30/month account would be all
> we needed unless we got popular (Lord, curse me thusly ;-).

My services go though johncompanies.com in San Diego. I used to have a
co-located server in Seattle, however, I found it easier to outsource
hardware management. Johncompanies.com provides the following: triple
homed networking, hardware management, and daily backups. I get 40g/month
network throughput ( with ability to scale ) and  I am happy with the
service there, ( don't have to deal with failing hardware issues anymore,
no pager calls) and host several domains.

Consider me a sole-proprietor web-hosting reseller with focus on
development support. The base system is Debian 3.0 w/some tweaks of mine.

Anyhoo, I have been online for a while and do not intend to go away
anytime soon. Since I directly manage the system, I have the ability to
make more agile changes that say more established web presences. Think of
my server like a pioneer field where rapid prototyping can occur. I incur
all the hosting costs myself, however, I am inclined to share space with
projects that interest me, such as HG.

My current feeling is that I have resources I can dedicate to getting a
prototype of HG hosted in relatively short time. The pioneer inception can
allow for the evolution of HG and eventually mature enough to move towards
ibiblio ( predicated on Zope, platform issues ). Protyping here, I can do
performance metrics on the application to report back to the ibiblio
people as well.

And Chad, you have mentioned you can also host ( as you are currently
doing with Eden ).

> Another zope snag that I've been thinking about is related to
> Richard.  I'm not sure what kind of PHP integration there is with
> zope.  Zope is really kind of alternative to PHP and using PHP with
> zope might be kind of redundant.  I actually haven't looked into this,
> but John^2 would probably know.  Anyway, Richard, consider learning
> zope.

PHP generally runs as an apache module, or as a stand alone CGI
application. There is a PHPTAL project that may be of interest @
http://nyphp.org/content/presentations/3templates/phptal/. ( Code in PHP,
and migrate to Zope later? ).

Zope also has a PHParser/PHPGateway @
http://zope.org/Members/hewei/PHParser/, so theoretically, PHP code could
be migrated to Zope in incremental steps ( migrate existing PHP code base
into Zope proper ).

Then again, there is mod_python for apache as well @
http://www.modpython.org/ for speed of execution.

> This is probably a pop fly, but I'm still open to using the Eden code
> base.  It covers 1 and 2 of my plan completely (100 hours of work) and
> can certainly scale to our needs.  Although it has a RDBMS backend it
> has a very clean OO design and I wrote it with the expectation that it
> would grow into something like HG.  Anyway, I hope I'm not confusing
> y'all with backtracking and such.  I would also be perfectly happy to
> use zope.
>
>
> --
> Chad Knepp
> python -c 'import base64;print
> base64.decodestring("cHlnQGdhbGF0ZWEub3Jn")'
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