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  • From: Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com>
  • To: nottke1 <nottke1@earthlink.net>, nafex mailing list at ibiblio <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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  • Subject: Re: [nafex] Dear repellent
  • Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 23:05:49 -0400

Thanks - that's what I suspected. Next question will be wine or jelly?

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On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:29 PM, nottke1 <nottke1@earthlink.net> wrote:

> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prunus_serotina
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Aug 17, 2014 8:22 PM
>> To: nafex mailing list at ibiblio <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] Dear repellent
>>
>> While I was on Winter Island, Salem, MA, I came across these trees and
>> someone there said he thought they were wild cherries. They don't seem to
>> have the same structure as a cherry, but I tasted one and they do have
>> similar taste and pit.
>>
>> I am not an orchardist or botanist, but am wondering if anyone knows what
>> these might be. I wouldn't mind making a jelly out of them but don't want
>> to get poisoned! I can't remember if we can attach photos on this list,
>> but will do so and see what happens.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lori
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Alan Haigh <alandhaigh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I cannot provide a more interesting repellent formula than what sounds to
>>> be burnt bone juice- although I expect by using a pressure cooker and a
>>> cast iron pan you could create something similar more easily if you don't
>>> mind having to use a powered wire brush to get the remains off the pan
>>> after burning the concentrated broth. A little vinegar in the water
>>> might free up more of the calcium and phosphorus if advice I've been given
>>> about making a more nutritious broth is correct. This might increase the
>>> repellency.
>>>
>>> I would like to see the multi-year effectiveness of the given formula
>>> backed by some kind of research, it does sound too good to be true and it
>>> doesn't sound so simple to make to me (and soup bones have become
>>> expensive
>>> if you don't happen to slaughter your own animals). If it is that long
>>> lasting, someone should create a specific recipe, patent it and make a
>>> fortune replacing fences in commercial orchards throughout the country
>>> with
>>> their miracle product. There is a pretty big market for deer repellents.
>>>
>>> What I used for years in my nursery is mostly whipped eggs mixed with
>>> water
>>> at about 2 eggs per gallon sprayed on the trees. I'd often include bars
>>> of
>>> Ivory soap, shredded and boiled in water then blended with the eggs. Now
>>> I'm using the eggs combined with Plantskyd- an expensive but long lasting
>>> product made out of the blood of slaughtered animals. The eggs allow me
>>> to
>>> use a third the recommended concentration of the expensive commercial
>>> product.
>>>
>>> Dried blood can also be used- I used to hang it from plastic bottles from
>>> trees fermenting in water, but it was just too stinky and if you bumped a
>>> bottle and got the stuff on you it was truly rank. It did work all season
>>> though and I only needed a bottle about every 10 feet or so. People
>>> sometimes just sprinkle it out of the package onto foliage. Eventually I
>>> will probably replace Plantskyd with powdered blood in my formula, adding
>>> a
>>> spreader-sticker for good measure. I just don't see it in garden centers
>>> any more.
>>>
>>> I always mix more of any repellent than I can possibly use quickly and let
>>> the stuff ferment into a toxic and foul smelling mixture, which also
>>> allows me to stretch the mixture longer. I've been sizing up fruit trees
>>> in my nursery for over two decades in major deer territory without fencing
>>> by using fencing and can vouch for their efficacy.
>>>
>>> Millorganite in cloth satchels can also work reasonably well.
>>>
>>> Ultimately, I recommend growing the trees above the browse line. Deer are
>>> helpful at eating drops and reducing insect and disease pressure. Real
>>> fruit should grow on real trees in my book.
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Lori Rizzo, BSN MBA RN
>> *Healthcare Quality & Performance Improvement*
>> *Behavioral Dog Training & Counseling*
>> *Heirloom & Unusual Vegetable Propagation*
>> *Dedham, MA*
>> *rizzolori1@gmail.com <rizzolori1@gmail.com>*
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