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  • From: Sarah Kehler Ewing <skkewing@yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [nafex] 2 new raspberries
  • Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 16:21:54 -0700 (PDT)

I agree Melissa.  I need more raspberry varieties like I need a hole in my
head, but that Crimson Night sure looks good to me!  Let me know when you
taste them and in about 10 years we should get them up here!

 
Sarah
zone 3
Edmonton, AB


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From: Matt Demmon <mdemmon@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 10:04:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nafex] 2 new raspberries

Yeah, the gold blush one looks especially tasty. I wonder how they actually
taste. It seems like every new berry variety has 'excellent flavor'. They
sure look good. I've had bad and very good yellow raspberries before.

-matt
z5 se MI

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Melissa Kacalanos <mijwiz@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have no complaints about the raspberries I already have, yet I covet
> these:
> http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/April12/Raspberries.html
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White cedar (Thuja spp.) are not part of the cedar-apple rust cycle, so do
not carry CAR to apples. Perhaps removing the two white cedar trees gave the
apple trees better air circulation, reducing conditions favorable to CAR.
Perhaps the years following white cedar removal just happened to years when
little CAR infections occured.

Lee Reich, PhD
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On May 7, 2012, at 7:19 PM, sherwin wrote:

> On 5/7/2012 4:09 PM, Lee Reich wrote:
>> CAR spores travel far so removing cedar trees is of limited use. Quoting
>> from my NEW book, Grow Fruit Naturally,
>>
>> "Cedar-apple rust disease produces orange spots on leaves and fruits.
>> Because cedar-apple rust needs both cedar and apple trees to complete its
>> life cycle, the disease is especially prevalent in humid regions where
>> wild cedars (Juniperus spp.) abound, such as much of the eastern United
>> States and Canada. Susceptible cedars, wild and cultivated, include
>> Juniperus chinensis, J.pinchotii, J. silicicola, J. utahensis, and many
>> varieties of J. communis, J. virginiana, and J. scopulorum. Disease spores
>> travel for miles in the air, so removal of cedar trees may not be a
>> practical means of disease control. Instead, prune for good air
>> circulation and plant resistant varieties such as ‘McIntosh’ and
>> ‘Liberty’, or else spray. Copper or sulfur fungicides give reasonable
>> controls and Surround offers suppression, but all must be applied early,
>> as leaf buds are opening and before you see any infections. Infections
>> occur only early in the season, and there is no further spread of new
>> infections from old infections."
>>
>> With my apple variety descriptions, I also list a number of other
>> varieties that are CAR resistant.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>> Lee Reich, PhD
>>
> I have to disagree with Lee. In my own experience, I had two
> White Cedars (Juniper Family) just a few feet from
> my apple trees and this caused a big CAR problem. After removing
> these Cedars, the problem went away. I live
> in the midst of a heavy urban community, so Junipers must be
> present somewhere. I think the benefit of
> removing nearby Junipers will vary, depending on the proximity of
> the next closest trees. It is possible that
> even a close by neighbor's trees would not be a problem, as my
> next door neighbor has one. His being South
> of me may be a factor as most of our winds come out of the North
> or Northwest.
>
> Sherwin Dubren
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