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  • From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@bellsouth.net>
  • To: nafex ibiblio mailing list <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [nafex ibiblio list] NAFEX fora
  • Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:50:37 -0500

On 12/20/2011 11:08 AM, david.maxwell@dal.ca wrote:

of NAFEX). They lucked into ibiblio as a host for their new forum. (Ibiblio
has nothing
whatsoever to do with NAFEX, or indeed any other of the hundreds of special
interest groups
who use their - free - service. It is a public service run by "a
collaboration of the Center for
the Public Domain and The University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill". They
take no interest
in the actual content, but provide the infrastructure to host the storage and
distribution of this
content. Now, the forum was to serve the function of information exchange
for NAFEX
members, so it was, quite reasonably, named "nafex.iblio". However, owing to
the nature of
ibiblio, which is completely open, subscriptions to the forum were not
restricted to dues-

The original NAFEX forum was on Yahoo which turned out not to be a very useful host. After talking with Greg Miller and Ginda Fisher I volunteered to have ibiblio create a new mailing list for NAFEX to replace the one at Yahoo. Ginda sent me the message archives and I sent those to ibiblio who created the list and installed the archives for us to build on. I started the list and share ownership of it. ibiblio hosts it. ibiblio has no involvement with any of their lists other than making sure they work properly and are secure and backed up and are used within legal bounds.

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Now we get to the meat. My own feeling is that a listserv serves this
specific need better
than a web-based forum which requires logging in, and Midfex might be wise to
let NAFEX
be the test of this. That is, wait awhile before going down this road, and
see whether NAFEX

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actually can make a go of it. And, no, "the NAFEX administrator" is not
planning anything
one way or another in terms of keeping the iblio forum going, because it is
not hers to
exercise any control of. It belongs to ibiblio, and they have neither
incentive to make any
changes, nor expressed intention of doing so.

ibiblio exercises no control over their lists other than technical and legal. In other words ibiblio has no involvement with this list other than that. They have neither the time or staff to oversee the day to day workings of their lists. Also, they are currently not accepting any more requests for lists to be hosted by them, so, what is there now is all there ever will be and the names of those existing lists can not be changed; they either continue or are deleted at the request of list owners. Everything else is the responsibility of the list owners, in this case I and one other person, as Sherwin owns his.

And, as a wholly gratuitous comment, my personal feeling is that NAFEX, (and
Midfex!) might
be better carving out a "market" in things that are not served by any other
entity, rather than
trying to compete for a function that may be better served by some other
entity.

There are plenty of ways that this list can collaborate and cooperate with NAFEX for its benefit as well as that of the list community. I have written Deb about this, posted here, and am ready to do whatever is needed.

Using this list (mailing list, forum, listserv, etc.) is accomplished using three simple procedures:

1) point your email to the mailing list or privately to any subscribers
2) point your web browser to the message archives at the list homepage
3) point your search criteria to the Google search box in your web browser

Another fruit-less post.

Merry Christmas to all.

Lawrence London




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