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  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] University researchers working to perfect haskap berries for Canada (Vancouver Sun)
  • Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:40:56 -0700 (PDT)

Haven't tasted wine from them... give me a couple of years!  I haven't had my
equipment out since we moved to the farm (trailer didn't have room), but we
are in the big house now and getting close to having too much of a couple
kinds of fruit.  I would think that wine from them would be distinctive, the
jam from them is highly flavoured-not just sugar jell like some other stuff.

I'm surprised that yours are so short: my first planting, which includes the
variety Blue Belle, could not be in worse soil and is completely over-run by
choking grasses and they are still at the 5'  mark.  But they do well in
higher pH soil which is something we have in spades here on the prairies.

The mish mash effect of seedlings is where the fun is! ;0) I had a few
seedlings fruit this year: all the ones that made the 12" growth mark last
year.  They were very much like the originals, nothing remarkable, but very
zone 3
Edmonton, AB

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Subject: Re: [NAFEX] University researchers working to perfect haskap berries
for Canada (Vancouver Sun)

I'm thinking I have Blue Belle.  That name sounds familiar.  My bushes
after 8-9 years are not even 3 feet high.  Well mulched, good compost
etc, they have never gotten any larger.

So the million dollar question is, have you tasted wine made from
them, & if so, do you notice any distinctive character that really
captures the fresh fruit flavor?

Also, if you have seedlings that are a result of your planting Im
assuming those seedlings would be a mishmash of genetics.


(you've almost sold me to put in a planting.....)

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Sarah Kehler Ewing <>
> I like all the Honeyberries/Haskaps and while there are noticeable
> differences in shapes, sizes and ripening dates, I'm not seeing much
> differences flavour wise.  Maybe some of them are a bit sweeter, but pick
> any of them a day or two early and they will all taste terrible.  The
> Haskaps are a larger berry, but they are all so much bigger than our native
> Saskatoons/Pin Cherries/Choke Cherries that there is no point in complaining
> about the 'smaller' ones.  Don't get me wrong, when they are properly
> ripened, I love them all out of hand, in jams, in smoothies, in pies, in
> cakes, in muffins, on ice cream, in crisps....  And living this far North,
> you have got to love something that is so frost hardy.  My only problems
> with growing them is that I hate the work of netting them which you have to
> do or they will all be eaten by the birds (but that is worth it to me) and
> the bushes are so brittle I have to make sure that my dogs don't make their
> patrol paths beside them because one winter of deer chasing by a bush took
> it from 4' tall to 6" tall.
> We have Blue Belle, Berry Blue, Blue Bird, Blue Velvet, Blue Pear, Borealis,
> Cinderella, Opal, Polar Night , Polar Jewel, Svetlana, Tundra, Wild Honey,
> Honey Sweet, Indigo Treat (9-91), Indigo Gem (9-15), Indigo Yum (9-92) and
> about 150 seedlings from the above.  This might just produce more than we
> can eat next year!
> Sarah
> zone 3
> Edmonton, AB
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Per Doug's excellent suggestion:

St. Patrick's Church
3610 Bridge Avenue
Cleveland, OH 44113

If anyone is considering this I would suggest you go there soon and find the
apple tree(s)while they are in fruit so you can see them and then go back for
scions in the spring/winter.

If you follow the url above yo will see the church was ordered closed though
it is still open.


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Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 01:47:54 -0400
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Fluffy One, can you provide the address in Cleveland (one presumes Ohio)
or the denomination which might help to narrow things down?

Let's make things as easy as possible for our prospective fruit

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

On 8/22/2011 9:02 PM, fuwa fuwa usagi wrote:
> The fluffy one was one genealogical quest for his ancestors last week
when he came across St. Patrick's Church in Clevland.
> Of interest to apple collectors is an apple tree in the church parking
lot. I carefully observed the tree and others and concluded it was
probably planted when the first church was erected (St Patrick's was
probably the second church on the site or founded after a previous
church (i.e the graveyard is much older than the church's founding
> Anyway the parking lot holds a sweet yellow apple that tasted good
even though it was far form ripe. The tree itself did not show any
signs of common diseases, the foliage was lush and outside of insect
damage the apples were clean. I also note the current tree is actually
an outer shell with a newer tree having grown up inside it, so wither
the top was destroyed in a storm and regrew or it hollowed out and
regrew. But the fruit that appeared to be the old tree appeared the
same as the new inner tree.
> Even unripe, the apple was very pleasant to taste, sweet and very
crisp (I loved the texture) even with the starchy aftertaste.
> At any rate< I do not live in the are so I will not be able to obtain
scions, but it may be of interest to some of you.
> If anyone goes after a scion I would appreciate hearing of it and how
it turns out.
> Btw St Patrick's is being closed so time may be of the essence.
> Kindest regards,
> tfb

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